(2018-11-06 3:17)Anonymouqs Wrote: https://blog.theanimalrescuesite.greater...t-holiday/
Good news, the conflict will not be as severe as initially perceived. It is based off the Gregorian Calendar and NOT Lunar Cycles:
"As for the date, though there will be a full moon on November 23 this year, the holiday doesn’t always fall on a full moon. It’s always on November 23 because, according to Jax’s son, the date celebrates the anniversary of “The Great Wolf’s Death.”
Oh? I just saw this. Who's The Great Wolf? And without meaning any disrespect, why should the day be based around one individual rather than the first official meeting?
(2018-11-21 22:39)DustWolf Wrote: Wolves do not own the full moon. The notion is laughable.
hehe yeah. Don't worry, no one is claiming they do.
(2018-11-06 12:04)PinkDolphin Wrote:
(2018-11-05 18:14)WolfVanZandt Wrote: Somebody suggested to Therian Nation that their videos were too dry and they needed to post some "fun" videos to draw in young people. Evidently, to many online therians, therianthropy is about fun. There are fun videos running out our ears. The powerful thing about Therian Nation is that it's respectable. It's like a news cast (well, it's like news casts used to be.) It presents therianthropy with integrity. I surely do hope that they don't take the posters advice.
I agree with this. As a youtuber myself I know I'm one that rather is at the 'fun' side. I try to make short videos and while I'm able to give a lot more detailed info like dates etc just as Therian Nation does, I rather keep it simple and easy explained as I know many newer (regardless of age) therians watch me and they do not always enjoy seeing a Lot of detailed info in once. I heard many times how that's discouraging and how they didn't want to actively study the history, terms etc afterwards anymore or couldn't understand it. As it was too much/difficult at once, overwelming. I try to be both as correct as possible, short, easy and fun. Aka trying to make a few jokes, play with images or interpretentions or laughing, setting where I film etc.
but while I myself am a bit more at the 'fun' side. I very often advice Therian Nation in both my videos as my describtion. This as they're the perfect youtube that is detailed, concrete, correct and as you say, a bit like the news. This is what many need and I heavily advice others to watch. I'm scared that if they'd throw in 'fun' they'd lose a bit of that serious-level they have now. That clear, correct info that we need so much in this info. If people don't like how they're so serious, then there are still plenty enough fun youtube channels to watch. But otherway around, Therian Nation is the only serious informative channel that I know (that is correct). We need them, and I wouldn't want to see them change!
I might be their opposite in a way, but that's exactly why I need their side too. And advice it to others.
I agree with this. Having different people with different ways of advocating for therianthropy is important. I think PD and TN should keep doing what they're doing.
(2018-11-06 15:34)WolfVanZandt Wrote: It's good when holidays are fun but I despise the secularization of holidays because it's a good indication of the moral laziness of modern humanity. They can't be bothered to take anything seriously. They've drained the blood out of what makes us people.
Please could you clarify what you mean when you say "the secularization of holidays"? It looks to me like you might be confusing secularisation and commercialisation so I just wanted you to clarify your position.
The secularisation of holidays would simply mean separating the religious context from a particular holiday. For example, a secular Christmas would celebrate the winter solstice, family, friendship, spending time together, and giving to others with the connection with Christianity as a separate aspect of Christmas that may or may not be celebrated, something individuals would decide for themselves. How seriously this event is then taken is an issue that does not directly link to secularisation as a process. Moral laziness has little to do with secularism, if not contradicting it. And how people identify as a people and how their culture manifests changes over time.
(2018-11-18 0:22)Wolf Daughter Wrote:
(2018-10-01 18:10)BearX Wrote: Additionally, there's a holiday which falls on the same day, made up by a 7-year old who is interested in wolves called "Wolfenoot", which has a whole mythology with gifts and roast meat and wolf spirits. It's cute, but I'd suggest keeping it separated from the therian community. Many folks in the Tumblr community are gravitating to it, and I suspect aren't considering that it's a 7-year old and his mother having fun with an idea and are trying to appropriate it. It's unfortunate because it falls on the same day as "Therianthropy Day" this year.
This is actually causing problems. Wolfenoot has gone viral. I think people are confusing the two. I've posted an image about Therianthropy Day in a few Facebook groups and have been met with "Wolfenoot!" and "What about Wolfenoot?" and "This day is too specific to wolfkin". Another person replied, "What do you mean the "first howl"? Not all Therians are wolves." I think some of these were said because those individuals were thinking of Wolfenoot. I have replied with history, trying to explain that the days are not the same thing. More people have known about this kid's made up celebration than they do about Therian history. Not enough people are concerned with building up our community. And have responded negatively to Therianthropy Day. One person said they won't celebrate because it just encourages more kids to wear tails and howl at the moon.
Many people on Facebook responded in a way that suggests they know nothing about our online community history. One person wrote,"I don't think I can put value in this day because the movement started further back in the 70's at least in a public setting." To which I replied that Therianthropes feel that we should be able to acknowledge our independent history and not have it completely subsumed by Otherkin.
I also did inform a few that Otherkin Day is considered by many to be on July 9. https://frameacloud.tumblr.com/post/1471...herkin-day
There's actually not a "Therianthropy Day" page on the wiki yet. One of us should add it and all of this history about the different names the day has gone through.
On a more positive note, I'm working on a cinematic poem that I will be releasing on November 23. I'll post a link to it in this thread.
This is worrying. Are you making a video explaining it or would this be outside the domain of what you want to focus on with your channel?
(2018-11-18 16:15)WolfVanZandt Wrote: Traditionally, young people don't care about yesterday or tomorrow. They live for the present. "Young" has extended much longer, even within my life time. As people get older, they start considering their roots and where they and their people are going. Some of the offline community was the online community of yesterday. (I'm very surprised at how many were never online.) I'm hoping that, as the online community grows up, they'll begin appreciating their roots.
I hope so too. Understanding our heritage and history is important. People and channels like Therian Nation are doing an amazing job informing people on important topics relating to therianthropy. I hope to help contribute to this effort in the future.