Yes, at four levels:

First, human civilization has always been supremacist and has been waging war against everyone and everything that does not fit into their power structure. You don't even have to be non-human to realize that and find it repulsive, but as people who find ourselves looking outside in from non-human perspectives it should be obvious from the start. Non-humans and humans alike are only allowed personhood and livelihood in accordance to their utility to the human hierarchy and its reproduction. For most non-humans the only role allowed is to be a resource to be consumed, or a pest to be exterminated. This is The Most Horrific Thing To Ever Be and I find it strange to not despise humanity in light of it. There are well meaning humans who try to end this, but they are such a small minority that I don't see a problem with painting a whole species with a single brush stroke. Unwilling or ignorant participation is still participation.

Second, humans take too much space and make it hard for anyone else to exist in it. For thousands of years natural environments have been gradually replaced by artificial ones made to suit human economic interests to the detriment of other species' existence. It's often difficult to find a place that hasn't been made barren and stinkied up by human recklessness and greed, a lot of the "natural grassland" around me is straight up disgusting. I need to go a long away from human settlements until I see plants that I would be even willing to put in my mouth. Everything around towns stinks and is sick, it's horrible. And then finding some good proper meadow worth spending time in is even harder, because even "remote" areas (I live in the middle of Europe lol) get ruined by herbicide runoff, commercial forestry and thoughtless landlords.

Third, humans are just kind of freaks? And they are often unpleasant or straight up dangerous to be around. Again, I know, #NotAllHumans, but in general it holds true. Many of the nice ones also look at other animals with possessiveness in their eyes, unwanted petting and "looking after" may not be as scary as outright abuse, but it comes from the same mindset.

And lastly, the cycle of domination of violence I described above also affects humans, including therians. Most of us here are in some way marginalized, neurodivergent or queer and I hope you all at least feel on some level that a major source of our alienation from human society is their insistence on us conforming ourselves to certain roles whether we like them or not, for the sole purpose of reproducing the power structure which may or may not benefit us in any way other than "at least we are not the ones at the bottom who are being devoured". That constant pressure of cruelty pushes us away from humanity, and since we are therians we have somewhere to escape to, at least in our minds, if not in our lives.

I don't think this is what causes therianthropy, because most of this perspective isn't even therian exclusive, compassionate humans who care about the existence of others also see the gargantuan scale of violence perpetuated by human civilization and feel alienated because of it. Which is also why I would advise against qualifying your beliefs as "just your point of ciew" or preempting pushback with #NotAllHumans. Things are very bad right now and we are in an unique position of responsibility to heal the Earth.

(2025-07-23 1:40)FernFox Wrote:  I'm curious how this relates to therianthropy?
Right now you've just explained the lifecycle of a star. Could you elaborate?

- Fern

I'm curious how this relates to therianthropy?
Right now you've just explained the lifecycle of a star. Could you elaborate?

- Fern

Hi, I came to share my theory, if it is not clear, feel free to ask her! I think that soul and body work like the life cycle of a star: 1. Protostar:
A cloud of gas and dust begins to gather together under the force of gravity, while heating up.
2. Main series star:
When the temperature and pressure in the star's core are high enough, the process of fusing hydrogen into helium begins, and the star becomes stable. Our sun is a main series star.
3. Development:
Small star: After the hydrogen is consumed, the star becomes a white dwarf, which is a dense and hot core, and a planetary nebula spreads around it.
Large star: A large star expands into a red giant, then explodes as a supernova.
4. End of life:
White dwarf: The core of a small star becomes a white dwarf, which gradually cools and becomes a black dwarf.
Black hole: A very large star can become a black hole, a region of space with very strong gravity.
Neutron star: After a supernova, the core of a star can collapse and become a neutron star, a very small, dense body. I think this explains it better than reincarnation. What do you think?

(2025-07-22 20:03)Mee Wrote:  Hi, I came to share my theory, if it is not clear, feel free to ask her! I think that soul and body work like the life cycle of a star: 1. Protostar:
A cloud of gas and dust begins to gather together under the force of gravity, while heating up.
2. Main series star:
When the temperature and pressure in the star's core are high enough, the process of fusing hydrogen into helium begins, and the star becomes stable. Our sun is a main series star.
3. Development:
Small star: After the hydrogen is consumed, the star becomes a white dwarf, which is a dense and hot core, and a planetary nebula spreads around it.
Large star: A large star expands into a red giant, then explodes as a supernova.
4. End of life:
White dwarf: The core of a small star becomes a white dwarf, which gradually cools and becomes a black dwarf.
Black hole: A very large star can become a black hole, a region of space with very strong gravity.
Neutron star: After a supernova, the core of a star can collapse and become a neutron star, a very small, dense body. I think this explains it better than reincarnation. What do you think?

<Rex, Pokemon and Manned-Wolf Hearted> My thoughts are just that cats and dogs are domestic animals that many people have experiences with. Psychologically, someone is much more likely to imprint into a canine or feline identity, and otherwise be exposed to canines and felines more than most animals. Spiritually, that same thing can lead to those feelings to have an easier time identifying and solidifying with a young therian.

If someone would otherwise be equal parts wolf and beetle, culturally dogs being much more revered and people being encouraged to interact with them more would lead to the wolf feelings being stronger. On the other end, bugs being considered pests can lead some people to be turned away from the concept of identifying as a beetle even subconsciously.

<Rex, Pokemon and Manned-Wolf Hearted> As a whole we believe were always going to experience nonhumanity and fictionality. Our system as a whole reflects that with almost all of us having both nonhuman and fiction experiences.

Ever since we can remember, we've experienced animality and nonhuman traits. Luckily we grow up with some friends who encouraged it, we always wanted to play fight and do any sort of game that involved pretending to be animals.

We never had a specific identity, but in retrospect, we can place many of our current headmates to past events. I know I was a canine as a child, and we actually know I was one of the most destructive headmates as a pup (Thankfully I mellowed out a lot haha).

The exact reason none of us can fully agree on. We were born with abnormal brain wiring because of genetics and passed down mental illness. We also believe there could be a spiritual cause to it. In either case, it's something we've likely just felt from birth or at least too early for any of us to remember. It's just a core identity regardless of the cause.

Most of this also applies to our fictionality and fictionkin adjacent experiences as well, hence why there's such an overlap with fictives also identifying as therians. My identity as a therian for being a Pokemon is complicated but much of it is because I've always identified as an animal to some extent and it didn't go away because my identity shifted as I got older.

I thought I was a wolf for a long time until meeting the thylacine. They are technically called wolves/dogs/tigers so... yeah. I'm not Australian/Tasmanian so I haven't seen thylacine pictures or symbols at all before somehow finding them online.

I don't think having a feline/canine theriotype is connected to genetics at all. There are thousands of mammal species on the planet, lots of mammals and non-mammals live in groups and seek out bonds... yet somehow only a small group of canines/felines are common types, not even the whole tree, mostly just foxes/wolves/domesticated dogs/domesticated cats/some big cats. Where are the sand cats, ocelots, servals, bay cats, hyenas, dingos, wild dogs, etc? You don't see those often yet they are in the feline/canine group with very similar characteristics to the common types.

So I think it's mostly imprinting, otherwise the palette would be much wider. Imprinting can happen through media, and not surprisingly, media is overrepresented with the listed common types above, moreover, plenty of them are also found in kid stories and mythology. Also, people tend to bond with dogs and cats from an early age.

On a side note, I truly believe some polytherians who have very common types from the feline/canine group, haven't found their species yet (or just imprinted on multiple species). There are plenty of animals out there which have mixed feline and canine characteristics in appearance and trait, especially if you are willing to look into the past, which isn't just dinosaurs but there are plenty of extinct mammals, avians and other species as well. Of course finding your type from thousands of extinct species is a humongous task but it is worth the consideration.

I have nothing against people who have a common type, they are valid as well, especially if they are psychological therians because well imprinting is a real thing, nothing wrong with that.

However, I absolutely do not believe in any spiritual theories regarding why there are common types... I find those reasonings extremely silly. If all therians would have a spiritual origin then there wouldn't be common types at all because wolves, foxes, dogs and cats don't have anything special compared to whales, elephants, cichlids, antelopes, monkeys, kangaroos, ducks, etc.

Just thought I should mention, you've taken down Zefer's group but not the part in the post here

(2025-07-05 12:45)Lupus Ferox Wrote:  Thanks @KevinLightning! That was an interesting take on your therianthropy I enjoyed reading! I don't have a narcissistic personality (I think that's what you meant - correct me if I'm wrong) myself but can relate to isolation in childhood and the struggle with connecting to people in general. I didn't have many friends either when I was young nor did I want to connect to others really. Not wanting to connect at the time is the reason why I think that nowadays my current struggles are so severe and my skills at socializing lackluster. I got blamed easily for either being emotionless or even selfish back then. Deep down, at my core, I know that that's not entirely true though. I do feel pretty intense emotions from time to time, as a matter of fact. Things that I don't want to feel all the time and therefore shield myself from them as a means to protect myself. Maybe it was better after all to learn how to connect, instead of being interested in things that were a bit out there, to be frank.

I think it takes a lot of effort to see yourself in such a realistic and matter-of-fact way, and know why you disagree with how some people see you. Very humble and tactful yet confident. I'm not sure if I have a narcissistic personality, that's just how people made me feel, it's probably true but I've learned how to focus on my inpact on other people because I really don't like being the center of attention.

I think all of us that withdrew from society when we were younger probably missed out on a lot of valuable experiences and things to learn, but I don't regret how I've gone so far. I've been lead down a pretty good path in life that I enjoy and I'm super grateful for it. I don't regret all the issues I had with people when I was growing up. But there's been a massive hole in my personality my whole life and I think it's from not feeling like I have a place I belong aside from in isolation. Never found my 'pack' ya know. But I've been doing a ton of work pushing myself outside of my comfort zone and I've gotten good at it. It's always important to recognize good progress. We all gotta keep pushing to find our kind of people I guess.

Thanks @KevinLightning! That was an interesting take on your therianthropy I enjoyed reading! I don't have a narcissistic personality (I think that's what you meant - correct me if I'm wrong) myself but can relate to isolation in childhood and the struggle with connecting to people in general. I didn't have many friends either when I was young nor did I want to connect to others really. Not wanting to connect at the time is the reason why I think that nowadays my current struggles are so severe and my skills at socializing lackluster. I got blamed easily for either being emotionless or even selfish back then. Deep down, at my core, I know that that's not entirely true though. I do feel pretty intense emotions from time to time, as a matter of fact. Things that I don't want to feel all the time and therefore shield myself from them as a means to protect myself. Maybe it was better after all to learn how to connect, instead of being interested in things that were a bit out there, to be frank.