Thanks for this thread! Will help a lot of young therians/otherkins !

I think it's worthwhile to update this post with a bit of math and science from previous conversations.

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If you're curious about the energy requirements, so let's do some math. Note that the numbers I'll be using were obtained through simple web searches.

Assumptions and notes:

• Subject: 200lbs (90.72kg), 5' 10" (1.78m) adult male
• Weight and surface area of the subject are the same before and after the process
• Skeletal mass of the subject is the same before and after the process
• Gut biome differences (roughly 3.9x10^13 bacteria) will not be addressed
• 1000 calories = 1 Calorie or 1 kilocalorie (kcal); food calories are measured in kcals, so that is what we'll use here
• Numbers in this document are rounded to the hundredth, but for precision, my calculations are not rounded
  

• 60% Water (120lbs / 54.43kg)
• 23% Soft tissue (46lbs / 20.87kg)
• 15% Bone (30lbs / 13.61kg)
• 2% Bacteria (4lbs / 1.81kg)
  

• Area of a rectangle: l*w
• Circumference of a circle: 2πr
• Volume of a cylinder: πr²h
• Density: m ÷ v
• Note that surface area and volume measurements can not be converted from Standard to Metric by multiplying by 2.54
  

Hello,

Given the rule changes regarding p-shifting, I have unlocked this thread if anyone has anything to add.

Rule 20 Wrote:Claiming that you have p-shifted or claiming to have a recipe to enable one to p-shift is not allowed.

(2020-07-25 9:18)DustWolf Wrote:  People who claim to have p-shifted or bi-location-shifted are usually people experiencing psychosis who need medical attention and not Internet forum attention.

Offering recipes to enable p-shifting is something often used to manipulate and control people who are Therians, because obviously if someone knew how to do it, we'd give anything to learn. And even though we might be sceptical, many would probably take a chance and end up in someone's nasty trap.

Therefore, to ensure basic health and safety, making these claims will lead to bans.

Joke recipes are of course allowed!

Keep in mind however that any posts arguing why TG rules are wrong will be removed.

LP,
Dusty

I definitely feel like my therianthropy results from imprinting on a certain animal rather than being born this way, even if it did start from a very young age. Growing up I didn't socialize very much, and I spent a LOT of time mirroring my cat, who I was abnormally close to. I feel that led to a lot of my more feline habits. Especially since I had that cat from when I was three until my early teens.

I haven't figured out yet why my theriotype went bobcat instead of housecat, but I do feel like my therianthropy results from the mental health problems and neurodivergence I've been dealing with since I was young and didn't start getting help for until I was 18.

I'm not well-versed in psychology and I haven't discussed my mental problems with a professional as often or as thoroughly as I should, but I've been wondering if my phantom shifts and mental shifts may be a form of dissociation that's linked to that feline imprint from a young age. The only thing I haven't been able to explain is why I'm shiftier when I'm NOT having mental health problems. I haven't had a shift in weeks and I've been more stressed than I've been in months

Funny how I just returned and this thread popped out for me.

Did a lot of thinking this past year and I also dug deep into shamanism (Siberian and Northern European mainly) and this post just rings true for me where I am at currently.

Did a lot of work with totem and power animals and some surprising stuff happened to me that have led me to believe there is indeed some form of resonance at play.
Shamananic shapeshifting...

I most definitely agree with your theory! I don't believe I was "born" with the mindset of a polar bear, but it was molded into me by an interaction in my childhood, imprinted.

Dusty, thank you for making this thread!
Once having it explained like this (I hadn't really given it much thought before), I definitely agree with your theory. While I know I was never a normal kid (and never will be, aha), I don't think that if I was born a dragon, wolf, and jaguar that I would just be realizing it now, within this past year. I'd think it would be something I had always inherently known. That being said, I believe that my Therianthropy is mostly the result of imprinting, maybe some moulding.

This would actually explain my case. Seeing my rather unorthodox start, my love for cats, a higher interest in various animals than humans... It's extremely likely this is a piece of the puzzle that is my therianthropy. I have thought a couple of times before that whilst I didn't have much of a non-human side in the past, I was already predisposed for therianthropy back then. That is, my chances of being a therian later was much bigger than for most people. Honestly, I can see how this could count for most, if not all therians out there.

I have asked myself why I'm here because I don't feel like a therian or a wolf. Or a human for that matter. People probably get annoyed with my dogmatic obsession with trauma psychology. The wolf was always there though, whether I felt it or believed it or not. And the "dog," too, formally known as an anger management problem. Besides all that, this is a great community.

When I came to TG saying I'm a wolf, I started to see things internally from a different perspective. I started thinking in terms of animal-logic and applying it to understand myself and solve some problems. One important thing right now is the relationship between the wolf and the "dog." The dog comes from the wolf and they are alike in some ways, but they evolved in different worlds. I found out their instincts are in conflict and it causes issues when they mesh the wrong way. It's kind of mysterious but that's the gist of it.

@Alliana, Love your werewolf instead of wishing for it to go away.

Humans are naturally connected to animals, some more than others. There are many ways people can feel and express these connections: regular people who love animals, animal whisperers, furries, therians, kith, shamanistic practitioners, etc. Most of the groups I listed can have altered states of consciousness, but they experience it somewhat differently.

I'm atheist with Buddhist leanings. I believe what we call the "soul" is impermanent and begins developing before birth. I think therianthropy in the modern world is most likely to be an adaptation to early trauma or autism. It looks a lot like DID/OSDD to me and there is some overlap. Some therians have DID/OSDD and may or may not know it. I don't know if anyone has ever collected statistics on the types of alters that systems have, but I'd say a sizable minority have animal-like alters.