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Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: Neon Rosettes - 2025-11-26 1:10
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Short answer: ew gross, no lol.
Long answer: they exist to make people feel more unique but do nothing to actually convey anything meaningful about one’s experience. If you’re so inclined, you can use microlabels in small, personal communities if it’s fun I guess, but the moment you step outside that bubble, you’d best be prepared to explain your experiences with normal words. We don’t need to be coming up with esoteric words for no reason, it doesn’t make things easier to talk about lmao.
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Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: NervousHound - 2025-11-26 0:49
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I have always been super meh on incredibly specific labels (like, ones that might only apply to a handful of people), but I get their reasoning for existing. They help people put a name to a specific experience, as well as help those people find each other. Unfortunately, most of the time these micro-labels are so niche to a particular side of a community, that they mean nothing to the greater community at large, rendering them almost useless. They can also be a weird way to harbor misinformation, which I have seen in communities outside of Therianthropy (such as online queer spaces). In the end, I think it's up to every individual to decide how they feel about such things, and use them if desired. But even if I found the perfect niche label that fit me to a T, I probably wouldn't use it because having to explain what it means defeats the purpose of the label. I would just explain my experiences outright.
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Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: KeweyTanuki - 2025-11-25 22:40
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I'm not a fan. Left unchecked, they create an in-groupy culture where it's seemingly more important to know the terminology than experience the therianthropy itself, and it's just a breeding ground for know-it-alls.
I know pigeonholes feel cosy for some but people seem to make a bee-line for those microlabels so quickly. Is it to feel validated, maybe? I don't know.
I don't even use the word "therian" if I'm discussing that aspect of myself with other people outside particular circles.
Also I feel stared at.
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Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: Elli_ - 2025-11-25 20:38
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As the title says.
I sometimes feel like some of the therian microlabels exist just for the sake of existing. Like I get that some alterhumans like having everything labeled out but what’s the point of doing so if the term is so obscure that most people will either have to google it or ask you to explain what it means? Wouldn’t it be easier to just explain your experience at this point? Especially when the label fits the basic therianthropy definition and is something fairly common among therians
What do y’all think?
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| RE: To what extent must you feel animalistic to be a therian? |
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Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: little wolf - 2025-11-19 19:09
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Your question about what it means to be human is one that philosophers have debated for millennia, and still, there is no true answer. The majority of my philosophy classes in college centered around that question, which was interesting for me as a deeply integrated therian, and it got me thinking about my own experience.
That said, here's the thing that has been touched on many times here: humans and animals are not as far removed and separate as most think. Humans are animals and thus share core instincts with other living creatures, even if those instincts may seem dulled in the human world. So, how did I determine I was a therian in light of this? I look at all my instincts, urges, experiences, etc. and compared them to what I learned over time is typical of most humans. I was born a therian, so certain things I thought were normal in my early life I quickly learned were not typical at all for humans.
Also, I looked at my experiences and compared them to my knowledge of other animals: do I share this trait with a wolf that humans don't share or don't experience in the same way? Plus, the phantom tail I feel on a constant basis is a bit of an easy giveaway.
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Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: Neon Rosettes - 2025-11-19 0:30
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Necessary caveat here that the ""line"" I'm about to discuss is individual, and while collectively most people would probably agree on this, it IS still unique to each person. I'm mentioning this here for you to take and then evaluate where you feel you fall along this spectrum as you see fit. I'm no expert, I'm just coming in here with my own experiences and observations from having been in the community for the last 13 years.
I think if we start from the assumption that everyone feels an alienation from humanity at some point in their life, it provides a good baseline. Going further, you find people who have moments where they wish they weren't human, but again, that still falls under the disillusionment, and a step beyond that is likely wish fulfillment. I think anything beyond this is what tips into therianthropy. Because at this step, you have someone who actually feels nonhuman. Most people who simply feel disillusioned or want a break from being human do not seriously go "I would actually consider being a nonhuman animal full time," like, if really pressed on it. Going to make the gender comparison (credentials: I'm trans LOL) and say that even people who are frustrated by the expectations of their gender roles or their anatomy don't necessarily want to transition. Think of all the cis women out there who can't stand getting periods, for instance. I do want to say that this is where that ""line"" is, and I put it in double quotes because even this is a grey area.
This is the point where you ultimately have to decide for yourself if you feel as though you are animal enough to be nonhuman. You have to look to the clues your body and brain are giving you, listen to your gut. Follow the train of thought if you are to seriously consider yourself nonhuman and see if it makes sense, feels comfortable, and then sit with it for a while. The truth has a way of revealing itself to you. Would I, a jaguar therian, consider being one full time for instance? No, I would not. But "wanting to be a nonhuman animal" is not the only metric by which you should judge your nonhumanity. The reason I pulled it as an example is because it's an easy one to use for comparison, and also I'm entirely aware that a lot of therians would in fact choose to be their theriotype without thinking twice about it.
That's why I say to listen to the clues your body is giving you about your nonhumanity. You have to decide if they are a strong enough indicator that what you're experiencing deviates enough from what your average person experiences to be considered falling under therianthropy. No one's going to throw you out if you don't experience shifts, if you don't want to physically be nonhuman, or don't have a theriotype nailed down. We only really care that you're authentically talking about your experiences (to the best of your ability). In my opinion, the fact you're here tells me that there's something notable about what you're experiencing, and that what you've read about therianthropy so far resonated with you in some fashion. I'd start there and interrogate further.
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Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: Barkbarks - 2025-11-18 22:22
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(2025-11-18 7:36)AriVB Wrote: (2025-11-17 20:11)Barkbarks Wrote: A person who has never had shifts. They don’t think much about being an animal. They recognize a certain animal in some, but not all, of their traits. They find comfort/joy in telling themself they are a specific animal and engaging with that part of themselves. They feel no significant disagreement with humanity, but agree with the idea of being that specific animal instead of, or alongside, being human.
Is this how you feel like yourself?
Yes, although I didn’t say so because I didn’t want the conversation to be entirely focused on me.
(2025-11-18 11:38)DustWolf Wrote: (2025-11-17 20:11)Barkbarks Wrote: Hi there! This is a question I’ve been meaning to find the answer to and haven’t found anything… clarifying. The question is, to what extent must you feel animalistic to be a therian?
Is a therian ‘made’ by involuntary experiences like shifts, belief in having an animal soul, or a strong knowing somebody has about the nature of their self? I know therianthropy is a personal identity that people can’t really tell you, so it’s hard to say what’s ’therian’ or not, but I kinda just need somebody to say something detailed on the topic.
Yes.
Well a therian isn't "made", you either are or you aren't. The reason people show up on these forums is because they have some experience that feels like something described here and they are hoping that talking to other people with the same experiences will help them understand what they feel.
(2025-11-17 20:11)Barkbarks Wrote: A person who has never had shifts. They don’t think much about being an animal. They recognize a certain animal in some, but not all, of their traits. They find comfort/joy in telling themself they are a specific animal and engaging with that part of themselves. They feel no significant disagreement with humanity, but agree with the idea of being that specific animal instead of, or alongside, being human.
Why are they here?
Every therian also has non-therian traits. Not everything you do in life absolutely needs to be explainable with therianthropy. People are here to get help with the experiences that are related to therianthropy, but they do have other experiences.
Fooling yourself into something that you don't genuinely feel, even if it brings you joy, is not what therianthropy is about. The point of places like TG is to help understand what you do experience. There might be other sites where roleplaying as an animal is the goal.
Being misanthropic (anti-human) is not required or related to therianthropy, though personally I am a therian who is misanthropic.
(2025-11-18 0:57)SilverKitsune Wrote: Any deeper info and corrections I'll leave to the true experts, should they care to comment, but for myself those are my own thoughts, beliefs, and experiences.
There are no experts in therianthropy, it's a subjective experience.
LP,
Dusty
Thank you for the detailed reply! I greatly appreciate it. I recognize the mistake on wording with “made,” and I hadn’t intended for it. I’m not here to roleplay or fool myself. This is a topic I’m interested in regardless of whether I belong in the community, even if only to understand it better. And much of the time, understanding something works in relation to your own self. I won’t say I’m on here just to understand other people, but by now I’m resigned to not being a therian. Plus, I believe even while not being a therian, understanding the topic can still be beneficial. One thing I think about is that if I’m not majorly something else or other than human, what does it mean to be human? Is ‘human’ simply the vast norm and therianthropy the outlier, or does being human require something more than a lack of therianthropy?
So I’m here to understand things both to know myself and what the community actually is. I take an agnostic stance on a lot of things, particularly on my own identity, so I take things slow and see what happens. Regardless of who I am or might be, I am really just here to learn.
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Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: SilverKitsune - 2025-11-18 12:20
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(2025-11-18 11:38)DustWolf Wrote: (2025-11-17 20:11)Barkbarks Wrote: Hi there! This is a question I’ve been meaning to find the answer to and haven’t found anything… clarifying. The question is, to what extent must you feel animalistic to be a therian?
Is a therian ‘made’ by involuntary experiences like shifts, belief in having an animal soul, or a strong knowing somebody has about the nature of their self? I know therianthropy is a personal identity that people can’t really tell you, so it’s hard to say what’s ’therian’ or not, but I kinda just need somebody to say something detailed on the topic.
Yes.
Well a therian isn't "made", you either are or you aren't. The reason people show up on these forums is because they have some experience that feels like something described here and they are hoping that talking to other people with the same experiences will help them understand what they feel.
(2025-11-17 20:11)Barkbarks Wrote: A person who has never had shifts. They don’t think much about being an animal. They recognize a certain animal in some, but not all, of their traits. They find comfort/joy in telling themself they are a specific animal and engaging with that part of themselves. They feel no significant disagreement with humanity, but agree with the idea of being that specific animal instead of, or alongside, being human.
Why are they here?
Every therian also has non-therian traits. Not everything you do in life absolutely needs to be explainable with therianthropy. People are here to get help with the experiences that are related to therianthropy, but they do have other experiences.
Fooling yourself into something that you don't genuinely feel, even if it brings you joy, is not what therianthropy is about. The point of places like TG is to help understand what you do experience. There might be other sites where roleplaying as an animal is the goal.
Being misanthropic (anti-human) is not required or related to therianthropy, though personally I am a therian who is misanthropic.
(2025-11-18 0:57)SilverKitsune Wrote: Any deeper info and corrections I'll leave to the true experts, should they care to comment, but for myself those are my own thoughts, beliefs, and experiences.
There are no experts in therianthropy, it's a subjective experience.
LP,
Dusty
There might not be any true experts, but you definitely know a heck of a lot more compared to what I do in the general physical knowledge category. I would consider that "expert" or "high level".
Before I ever actually looked into therianthropy and the true meaning, definition or any type of knowledge confirming my own experiences, I literally went off my own instinct.
For myself, I would say I am more "nature smart" when it comes to therianthropy, meaning I was having, and felt extremely comfortable with my experiences far before I ever decided to take a deeper dive into the "behind the scenes" knowledge.
What drove me here was pure curiosity, and I also love to help teach, and learn more, so I figured that once things in my life settled and my schedule wasn't as busy, I would check this place out, see what it has to offer, and what I can offer to this place, and in a world that is currently overflowing with misinformation, disinformation, lies and falsehoods, I wanted to get a deeper look and insight into what I already have known about myself, while being able to share with others, and bring to the table what I can while doing so.
In a word, I guess confirmation would describe best why I am here.
I will also say that although each experience is unique, individual and subjective, there are certain areas in which some therians have had far more experience, which I would personally consider "expert" compared to what I know overall.
I'm looking to expand my understanding and overall knowledge, so that I will not only be able to help other therians, but also explain things to humans in terms they can understand to a point, and direct them to where they can find out more if they want to learn more.
What you explained in this thread is also very helpful and insightful for me as well, and what you said about misanthropy is something I didn't know much about, but if it is something that I have ever come across and didn't know about or what it was, I'll definitely be educating myself on that too.
Thank you for your insight Dusty.
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Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: DustWolf - 2025-11-18 11:38
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(2025-11-17 20:11)Barkbarks Wrote: Hi there! This is a question I’ve been meaning to find the answer to and haven’t found anything… clarifying. The question is, to what extent must you feel animalistic to be a therian?
Is a therian ‘made’ by involuntary experiences like shifts, belief in having an animal soul, or a strong knowing somebody has about the nature of their self? I know therianthropy is a personal identity that people can’t really tell you, so it’s hard to say what’s ’therian’ or not, but I kinda just need somebody to say something detailed on the topic.
Yes.
Well a therian isn't "made", you either are or you aren't. The reason people show up on these forums is because they have some experience that feels like something described here and they are hoping that talking to other people with the same experiences will help them understand what they feel.
(2025-11-17 20:11)Barkbarks Wrote: A person who has never had shifts. They don’t think much about being an animal. They recognize a certain animal in some, but not all, of their traits. They find comfort/joy in telling themself they are a specific animal and engaging with that part of themselves. They feel no significant disagreement with humanity, but agree with the idea of being that specific animal instead of, or alongside, being human.
Why are they here?
Every therian also has non-therian traits. Not everything you do in life absolutely needs to be explainable with therianthropy. People are here to get help with the experiences that are related to therianthropy, but they do have other experiences.
Fooling yourself into something that you don't genuinely feel, even if it brings you joy, is not what therianthropy is about. The point of places like TG is to help understand what you do experience. There might be other sites where roleplaying as an animal is the goal.
Being misanthropic (anti-human) is not required or related to therianthropy, though personally I am a therian who is misanthropic.
(2025-11-18 0:57)SilverKitsune Wrote: Any deeper info and corrections I'll leave to the true experts, should they care to comment, but for myself those are my own thoughts, beliefs, and experiences.
There are no experts in therianthropy, it's a subjective experience.
LP,
Dusty
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Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: AriVB - 2025-11-18 7:36
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(2025-11-17 20:11)Barkbarks Wrote: A person who has never had shifts. They don’t think much about being an animal. They recognize a certain animal in some, but not all, of their traits. They find comfort/joy in telling themself they are a specific animal and engaging with that part of themselves. They feel no significant disagreement with humanity, but agree with the idea of being that specific animal instead of, or alongside, being human.
Is this how you feel like yourself?
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