New Rule 24

(2025-05-04 3:39)Bagera Wrote:  

(2025-05-04 3:30)starwingedwolf Wrote:  

(2025-05-03 0:28)Bagera Wrote:  After much deliberation, we staff have decided to disallow discussion on plurality and DID among the main parts of the forum.

The rule as written: Plurality, DID, multiple personalities, and other like conditions are not to be discussed outside of adult spaces, with the exception of teams in which the staff member allows, and personal journals, or if the individual is seeking legitimate healthcare resources.


This has always been a loaded topic, much like politics, and almost always degrades into bickering or people invalidating others experiences. We do not wish to exclude or punish people who are legitimately experiencing these conditions, hence why we are not having a blanket ban. For the sake of peace though, we must limit these topics to designated spaces. Since staff members can change over time, if you wish to find a team which allows this as a discussion topic, feel free to post in Write to Staff and ask us.


I realize that there will people who are upset with the new rule, as there are people with every new rule, but this has really been an ongiong issue for many years now, and we would rather people with these issues to be able to talk in designated spaces safely rather then be invalidated by people who are skeptical in the public spaces. Skepticism is allowed on this site, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but when it devolves into bickering, it makes the space uncomfortable for everyone.

Thank you all for the understanding.

I really do not agree with this rule at all. You are banning discussion of a disorder because of bickering and people invalidating eachothers experiences, why do we not ban bickering and fakeclaiming instead? This is kinda like telling an autistic person to shut up because majority of neurotypical people naturally tend to dislike autistic people/favor other neurotypicals over autistic people even without knowing they're autistic.

I don't want to accuse anyone of anything, but this honestly just seems like TG is trying to erase systems and DID and deny their existence, I do not believe you're doing it to avoid systems getting hurt, because if you were I think the more logical solution was to ban fakeclaiming.

The thing about fakeclaiming is that we have no way of proving whether someone is or isn't. The fact of it all is that DID and the like is generally the result of a medical condition, and no one here is qualified to diagnose or dismiss any condition. We know that some of you are hurt by this decision, and believe me, we deliberated on it for some time. Every single active staff member, including ones who are plural themselves, voted yes on this.
We as staff need to maintain peace, and this topic always turns into bickering. That involves hard decisions that some people aren't going to like. As I said though, no one wanted to blanket ban the topic because we didn't want to shut out systems. There are just now designated spaces for it. I really don't understand why people keep glossing over that. There are places where this discussion can take place. Why is it any different than fictionkin discussion only taking place in the fictionkin forum? How is it different than any other topic on this forum being posted in their designated spaces?

why do we need to prove if someone is plural or not? I dont think we should be asking those who claim to be plural to prove that they are actually plural, unless if they state stuff that is actually like.. obviously wrong and not a part of plurality, apologies for my poor wording. I think we should just believe if someone says that they are and there's no reason to be suspicious. Not everyone has the resources to be diagnosed, and it also isn't always a good thing to be diagnosed in some places in the world.

Ik yall didn't 100% ban the discussion of systems and plurality but you did lock it behind adult spaces, even though minors can be plural. I know it's allowed in some team chats and personal journals. But why can't it just be allowed everywhere and just ban fakeclaiming?

How is making discussions about systems and plurality only being allowed in specific channels going to stop fakeclaiming and bickering. Like what's stopping someone from scrolling through random people's journals, seeing that they are a system and then fakeclaiming them? It makes it harder and more effort, but not allowing discussion of plurality and systems outside of certain areas isn't gonna stop fakeclaiming, but banning fakeclaiming would stop it because then it's literally not allowed.

So, for complete clarity, where exactly are these discussions allowed? Like, I know it can be talked about in journals, but where exactly is the space set aside for system discussion? I've been searching the forums to try to find where it would be but can't see anything anywhere I've looked.

I'm not sure if I just don't understand where or what "adult spaces" are, but I can't find anything that would even indicate or point to where it's located.

(2025-07-24 5:15)WerewolfPack Wrote:  So, for complete clarity, where exactly are these discussions allowed? Like, I know it can be talked about in journals, but where exactly is the space set aside for system discussion? I've been searching the forums to try to find where it would be but can't see anything anywhere I've looked.

I'm not sure if I just don't understand where or what "adult spaces" are, but I can't find anything that would even indicate or point to where it's located.

The adult board is accessible to active adult members. Your account is set as inactive (meaning you haven't posted in 6+ months), so you won't be able to see them. To become an active member, you need to post twice. As for team forums, they belong to each individual staff member and you can join them by asking the staff member who owns a given team. You can learn more about teams here. You'll need to ask a given staff member if they allow that kind of discussion in their team, but many do. Especially Senna, as she is plural herself.

(2025-05-04 3:39)Bagera Wrote:  

(2025-05-04 3:30)starwingedwolf Wrote:  

(2025-05-03 0:28)Bagera Wrote:  After much deliberation, we staff have decided to disallow discussion on plurality and DID among the main parts of the forum.

The rule as written: Plurality, DID, multiple personalities, and other like conditions are not to be discussed outside of adult spaces, with the exception of teams in which the staff member allows, and personal journals, or if the individual is seeking legitimate healthcare resources.


This has always been a loaded topic, much like politics, and almost always degrades into bickering or people invalidating others experiences. We do not wish to exclude or punish people who are legitimately experiencing these conditions, hence why we are not having a blanket ban. For the sake of peace though, we must limit these topics to designated spaces. Since staff members can change over time, if you wish to find a team which allows this as a discussion topic, feel free to post in Write to Staff and ask us.


I realize that there will people who are upset with the new rule, as there are people with every new rule, but this has really been an ongiong issue for many years now, and we would rather people with these issues to be able to talk in designated spaces safely rather then be invalidated by people who are skeptical in the public spaces. Skepticism is allowed on this site, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but when it devolves into bickering, it makes the space uncomfortable for everyone.

Thank you all for the understanding.

I really do not agree with this rule at all. You are banning discussion of a disorder because of bickering and people invalidating eachothers experiences, why do we not ban bickering and fakeclaiming instead? This is kinda like telling an autistic person to shut up because majority of neurotypical people naturally tend to dislike autistic people/favor other neurotypicals over autistic people even without knowing they're autistic.

I don't want to accuse anyone of anything, but this honestly just seems like TG is trying to erase systems and DID and deny their existence, I do not believe you're doing it to avoid systems getting hurt, because if you were I think the more logical solution was to ban fakeclaiming.

The thing about fakeclaiming is that we have no way of proving whether someone is or isn't. The fact of it all is that DID and the like is generally the result of a medical condition, and no one here is qualified to diagnose or dismiss any condition. We know that some of you are hurt by this decision, and believe me, we deliberated on it for some time. Every single active staff member, including ones who are plural themselves, voted yes on this.
We as staff need to maintain peace, and this topic always turns into bickering. That involves hard decisions that some people aren't going to like. As I said though, no one wanted to blanket ban the topic because we didn't want to shut out systems. There are just now designated spaces for it. I really don't understand why people keep glossing over that. There are places where this discussion can take place. Why is it any different than fictionkin discussion only taking place in the fictionkin forum? How is it different than any other topic on this forum being posted in their designated spaces?

Hi there. I bumped into this rule after joining the Discord recently, and I'm wondering if this is all the material on this rule/anything else to do with DID discussion on this forum. As I read the rule as written and the replies here on this thread, this is what stands out to me as a problem: "Why is it any different than fictionkin discussion only taking place in the fictionkin forum? How is it different than any other topic on this forum being posted in their designated spaces?"

Because if you lean towards DID (or Plural identities) as being a real, and therefore alters are real, then you have members who cannot engage with the forum equally as members who are singletons/singlets/those who are not plural. If alters are not allowed to announce themselves as an individual, and must mask as one person under one username to engage on the forums, then that feels unjust. Unless I misunderstood, and alters ARE allowed to announce that they are present/the one typing, but discussing DID as a topic must sit inside a specific topic thread/forum, then that I could agree with that more. I'd love more clarity. Can a profile mention they are a system? And can alters make it known someone else is typing? If not, would alters need separate accounts in order to engage as themself? :/

(2025-07-25 21:31)tsukinokyuubi Wrote:  

(2025-05-04 3:39)Bagera Wrote:  

(2025-05-04 3:30)starwingedwolf Wrote:  

(2025-05-03 0:28)Bagera Wrote:  After much deliberation, we staff have decided to disallow discussion on plurality and DID among the main parts of the forum.

The rule as written: Plurality, DID, multiple personalities, and other like conditions are not to be discussed outside of adult spaces, with the exception of teams in which the staff member allows, and personal journals, or if the individual is seeking legitimate healthcare resources.


This has always been a loaded topic, much like politics, and almost always degrades into bickering or people invalidating others experiences. We do not wish to exclude or punish people who are legitimately experiencing these conditions, hence why we are not having a blanket ban. For the sake of peace though, we must limit these topics to designated spaces. Since staff members can change over time, if you wish to find a team which allows this as a discussion topic, feel free to post in Write to Staff and ask us.


I realize that there will people who are upset with the new rule, as there are people with every new rule, but this has really been an ongiong issue for many years now, and we would rather people with these issues to be able to talk in designated spaces safely rather then be invalidated by people who are skeptical in the public spaces. Skepticism is allowed on this site, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but when it devolves into bickering, it makes the space uncomfortable for everyone.

Thank you all for the understanding.

I really do not agree with this rule at all. You are banning discussion of a disorder because of bickering and people invalidating eachothers experiences, why do we not ban bickering and fakeclaiming instead? This is kinda like telling an autistic person to shut up because majority of neurotypical people naturally tend to dislike autistic people/favor other neurotypicals over autistic people even without knowing they're autistic.

I don't want to accuse anyone of anything, but this honestly just seems like TG is trying to erase systems and DID and deny their existence, I do not believe you're doing it to avoid systems getting hurt, because if you were I think the more logical solution was to ban fakeclaiming.

The thing about fakeclaiming is that we have no way of proving whether someone is or isn't. The fact of it all is that DID and the like is generally the result of a medical condition, and no one here is qualified to diagnose or dismiss any condition. We know that some of you are hurt by this decision, and believe me, we deliberated on it for some time. Every single active staff member, including ones who are plural themselves, voted yes on this.
We as staff need to maintain peace, and this topic always turns into bickering. That involves hard decisions that some people aren't going to like. As I said though, no one wanted to blanket ban the topic because we didn't want to shut out systems. There are just now designated spaces for it. I really don't understand why people keep glossing over that. There are places where this discussion can take place. Why is it any different than fictionkin discussion only taking place in the fictionkin forum? How is it different than any other topic on this forum being posted in their designated spaces?

Hi there. I bumped into this rule after joining the Discord recently, and I'm wondering if this is all the material on this rule/anything else to do with DID discussion on this forum. As I read the rule as written and the replies here on this thread, this is what stands out to me as a problem: "Why is it any different than fictionkin discussion only taking place in the fictionkin forum? How is it different than any other topic on this forum being posted in their designated spaces?"

Because if you lean towards DID (or Plural identities) as being a real, and therefore alters are real, then you have members who cannot engage with the forum equally as members who are singletons/singlets/those who are not plural. If alters are not allowed to announce themselves as an individual, and must mask as one person under one username to engage on the forums, then that feels unjust. Unless I misunderstood, and alters ARE allowed to announce that they are present/the one typing, but discussing DID as a topic must sit inside a specific topic thread/forum, then that I could agree with that more. I'd love more clarity. Can a profile mention they are a system? And can alters make it known someone else is typing? If not, would alters need separate accounts in order to engage as themself? :/

Alters are allowed to say who is speaking, but we want it to be done in a more natural way than prefixing each post. What this means is that if someone asks who is speaking, uses the wrong name, or if you're just introducing yourself in a post, you would simply do so as if you were speaking to someone in day to day life.
For example:
John: Hey Carol, how are you today?
You: Oh, it's Joanne right now, but I'm doing well.

Or:
Hey guys, it's Tim right now, has anyone seen the new forum post on food?

As for what else you've asked:
You can list on your profile that you are a system
Only one account per body. We don't allow members to have multiple accounts

Please let me know if there's any additional clarification you need.

Also: It's not something you've asked but just a bit of a heads up for everyone reading this in general, but we are still discussing as a community the finer points of this rule, and currently we are planning to set up a plural therians and other identities subforum on the site. So there will soon be a dedicated space for these kinds of discussions.