<Rex, Pokemon and Manned-Wolf Hearted> My thoughts are just that cats and dogs are domestic animals that many people have experiences with. Psychologically, someone is much more likely to imprint into a canine or feline identity, and otherwise be exposed to canines and felines more than most animals. Spiritually, that same thing can lead to those feelings to have an easier time identifying and solidifying with a young therian.

If someone would otherwise be equal parts wolf and beetle, culturally dogs being much more revered and people being encouraged to interact with them more would lead to the wolf feelings being stronger. On the other end, bugs being considered pests can lead some people to be turned away from the concept of identifying as a beetle even subconsciously.

<Rex, Pokemon and Manned-Wolf Hearted> As a whole we believe were always going to experience nonhumanity and fictionality. Our system as a whole reflects that with almost all of us having both nonhuman and fiction experiences.

Ever since we can remember, we've experienced animality and nonhuman traits. Luckily we grow up with some friends who encouraged it, we always wanted to play fight and do any sort of game that involved pretending to be animals.

We never had a specific identity, but in retrospect, we can place many of our current headmates to past events. I know I was a canine as a child, and we actually know I was one of the most destructive headmates as a pup (Thankfully I mellowed out a lot haha).

The exact reason none of us can fully agree on. We were born with abnormal brain wiring because of genetics and passed down mental illness. We also believe there could be a spiritual cause to it. In either case, it's something we've likely just felt from birth or at least too early for any of us to remember. It's just a core identity regardless of the cause.

Most of this also applies to our fictionality and fictionkin adjacent experiences as well, hence why there's such an overlap with fictives also identifying as therians. My identity as a therian for being a Pokemon is complicated but much of it is because I've always identified as an animal to some extent and it didn't go away because my identity shifted as I got older.

I thought I was a wolf for a long time until meeting the thylacine. They are technically called wolves/dogs/tigers so... yeah. I'm not Australian/Tasmanian so I haven't seen thylacine pictures or symbols at all before somehow finding them online.

I don't think having a feline/canine theriotype is connected to genetics at all. There are thousands of mammal species on the planet, lots of mammals and non-mammals live in groups and seek out bonds... yet somehow only a small group of canines/felines are common types, not even the whole tree, mostly just foxes/wolves/domesticated dogs/domesticated cats/some big cats. Where are the sand cats, ocelots, servals, bay cats, hyenas, dingos, wild dogs, etc? You don't see those often yet they are in the feline/canine group with very similar characteristics to the common types.

So I think it's mostly imprinting, otherwise the palette would be much wider. Imprinting can happen through media, and not surprisingly, media is overrepresented with the listed common types above, moreover, plenty of them are also found in kid stories and mythology. Also, people tend to bond with dogs and cats from an early age.

On a side note, I truly believe some polytherians who have very common types from the feline/canine group, haven't found their species yet (or just imprinted on multiple species). There are plenty of animals out there which have mixed feline and canine characteristics in appearance and trait, especially if you are willing to look into the past, which isn't just dinosaurs but there are plenty of extinct mammals, avians and other species as well. Of course finding your type from thousands of extinct species is a humongous task but it is worth the consideration.

I have nothing against people who have a common type, they are valid as well, especially if they are psychological therians because well imprinting is a real thing, nothing wrong with that.

However, I absolutely do not believe in any spiritual theories regarding why there are common types... I find those reasonings extremely silly. If all therians would have a spiritual origin then there wouldn't be common types at all because wolves, foxes, dogs and cats don't have anything special compared to whales, elephants, cichlids, antelopes, monkeys, kangaroos, ducks, etc.

Just thought I should mention, you've taken down Zefer's group but not the part in the post here

(2025-07-05 12:45)Lupus Ferox Wrote:  Thanks @KevinLightning! That was an interesting take on your therianthropy I enjoyed reading! I don't have a narcissistic personality (I think that's what you meant - correct me if I'm wrong) myself but can relate to isolation in childhood and the struggle with connecting to people in general. I didn't have many friends either when I was young nor did I want to connect to others really. Not wanting to connect at the time is the reason why I think that nowadays my current struggles are so severe and my skills at socializing lackluster. I got blamed easily for either being emotionless or even selfish back then. Deep down, at my core, I know that that's not entirely true though. I do feel pretty intense emotions from time to time, as a matter of fact. Things that I don't want to feel all the time and therefore shield myself from them as a means to protect myself. Maybe it was better after all to learn how to connect, instead of being interested in things that were a bit out there, to be frank.

I think it takes a lot of effort to see yourself in such a realistic and matter-of-fact way, and know why you disagree with how some people see you. Very humble and tactful yet confident. I'm not sure if I have a narcissistic personality, that's just how people made me feel, it's probably true but I've learned how to focus on my inpact on other people because I really don't like being the center of attention.

I think all of us that withdrew from society when we were younger probably missed out on a lot of valuable experiences and things to learn, but I don't regret how I've gone so far. I've been lead down a pretty good path in life that I enjoy and I'm super grateful for it. I don't regret all the issues I had with people when I was growing up. But there's been a massive hole in my personality my whole life and I think it's from not feeling like I have a place I belong aside from in isolation. Never found my 'pack' ya know. But I've been doing a ton of work pushing myself outside of my comfort zone and I've gotten good at it. It's always important to recognize good progress. We all gotta keep pushing to find our kind of people I guess.

Thanks @KevinLightning! That was an interesting take on your therianthropy I enjoyed reading! I don't have a narcissistic personality (I think that's what you meant - correct me if I'm wrong) myself but can relate to isolation in childhood and the struggle with connecting to people in general. I didn't have many friends either when I was young nor did I want to connect to others really. Not wanting to connect at the time is the reason why I think that nowadays my current struggles are so severe and my skills at socializing lackluster. I got blamed easily for either being emotionless or even selfish back then. Deep down, at my core, I know that that's not entirely true though. I do feel pretty intense emotions from time to time, as a matter of fact. Things that I don't want to feel all the time and therefore shield myself from them as a means to protect myself. Maybe it was better after all to learn how to connect, instead of being interested in things that were a bit out there, to be frank.

(2023-06-07 15:05)indoraptor Wrote:  For me, I openly attribute isolation from, lack of socialization with, and trauma caused by humans from an early age to me identifying as & seeking community with other nonhumans.

My therianthropy itself, I feel, is more psychological than spiritual, yes — but I also feel that it is innate. I can’t tell you why I feel, think, and do some of the things that I do; whether I was predisposed from birth to be this way, or if I would have been different had I been a happier child — but I’m inclined to think that, whatever it is, it was Always inside of me, inside of my brain, my heart, what many would call my ‘soul.’

I relate to so much of this, specifically with how it feels innate, and that it's something that's always been a part of you or your 'soul' as you put it (I don't have a better term). Also with how your discovery of your therianthropy was the result of your upbringing and not that you became one.

I felt very isolated through my childhood, very few friends my age. A lot of that is my own fault, I never learned how to be a true friend to people early on and I was kind of narcissistic and indifferent to classmates growing up. It wasn't til high school that I learned what a true friend was like and I became even more disconnected from people around me after that. I'm lucky not to have experienced real trauma or abuse, but I always felt like I was less than human. I never felt a strong need to "fit in" and weird personalities were mostly accepted where I grew up but I was still singled out as the creepiest in school, I was made to feel like there was something extra wrong with me.

Since I was real little I always had some kind of strong canine connection. I feel it closer to my core than anything else, like a deep gut feeling. To let out wolf like movements and behaviors would just feel comfortable and please me in a way nothing else could, just felt right with my bones in a way I guess.

As I got older I started experiencing shifts but I didn't take myself seriously, I was already so weird why would I want to push that further? So I tried to bottle up and suppress what I believe what was my therianthropy for years, but it never left me, the urges to express the canine in me kept coming back stronger. Now I'm just trying to find people I can share these things with. I have some good friends nowadays but they don't relate to what I'm experiencing. But it feels great to read threads like this and everyones replies. Anyone else think there's a strong correlation between struggling to connect with people early on and discovering you're therian?

In my entire life that I lived so far I have never once felt entirely human. I have so many memories of feeling very cat-like when I was younger and canine like. I am so very many memories and so many feelings that I've had. I just always felt animal to some degree.

Even when I was younger I didn't even identify as human like that. I mean I knew I was one I felt like one but I couldn't help but also feeling like a cat. I would go so far to tell other people that I was a cat and that I was also a wolf. I remember telling people that I have a great sense of smell (I do not) an absolutely amazing hear (I'm actually hard at hearing and had to have hearing aids that one time) and I would tell people that I'm actually part wolf and I was not entirely human.

It just felt right to me. My entire life I felt animal to some degree, whether it's small or huge. I just never felt 100% human. I've always felt animal like to some degree.

Of course it could have been my imagination but I've also felt like other animals but not like how I feel with cats and red wolves. It was different and way stronger with felines and canines.

And my theory on why I'm this way is that I'm just am. I don't really want to worry about my origins and stuff I just believe that I am this way. there's no specific reason why I am this way, I just am.

That makes me believe that I am a therian :3

In regards to the theory that some canines/felines have their type wrong, maybe this story will help.

I had a “bat phase” in my teens. During this period, I was trying to see myself as a bat instead of a bird, and I even made a bat fursona. I really wanted to be a creature with fur and a cute snout and big ears, because I thought those things were cool. So when I was trying to create my ideal self, I meshed together the things I felt like I needed (ie. flight, long claws) and what I wanted (the mammalian traits). My fursona was basically a fox with wings. However, I couldn’t lie to myself for very long: my experiences have always been strongly avian.

As humans, we do seem to have this weird draw to canines and felines, finding them both cute and cool. At least in my case, once I’d already accepted that I feel like an animal, there was some wish-fulfillment element of “let me gather all the most beautiful and attractive traits to create an image of what I am.” But obviously, that isn’t very productive.

What’s interesting is that I think this explains a canine-feline identification in the TikTok therians, and some young people who haven’t gotten much of a chance to think about themselves yet, but there’s still quite a few canines and felines left over who seem very self-assured. There could be all kinds of explanations, some compelling ones being:
-Imprinting (we keep canine/feline pets)
-Genetic similarities (cats/dogs are mammals. You could reply to this by asking “where’s the primate therians then,” but my thoughts are that a lot of them don’t experience displacement or dysphoria to the extent of others because humans are primates).
Not much of an authority on the spiritual stuff, but those arguments are interesting too.

Not everybody is a therian. When I came out to a friend as being therian, they immediately reacted by saying "so what kind of animal am I?". They obviously hadn't done any kind of introspection beforehand and reacted as if this one fact had just changed their outlook on themselves and their world. It felt as though there even was excitement at play when they heard of this, other kind of excitement than what you would usually expect.

Of course, this is a one time event only. However, I'm not quite convinced that there are many therians globally. I am sure there are therians who don't know they're therians but to say that almost everybody is one, is beyond logical reasoning. We're a niche community, with a very varied share of opinions among its members.

I liked the first part of your theory, though. But I think it's a bit of a faulty comparison. How can I explain?

There are so many wolves because they're social animals so the majority of human beings identifying as therians have to be wolves, dogs or cat-like themselves. But what about reptiles or poultry, like somebody suggested a while back? One hundred percent of therians are human beings, human beings that live in social structures, the way we're all familiar with them. It's not because these human beings are social animals, their theriotypes have to be social themselves. I think theriotypes can go in all directions really, be it something extinct or non existent on this earth (theriomythics, the otherkin). Of course it's easier for a human being to relate to a wolf because of its hang for living in groups, if that human being is a social creechur themselves naturally. But I'm sure that there is an equal chance somebody is not a wolf or cat but is theriomythic, dragon-like or vampire instead. Perhaps we haven't heard of the real numbers of wolves that are out there. Maybe they are wrong about their theriotypes, aren't wolves or aren't therian altogether. What I would like to see is how many of us actually still believe they're a wolf therian, who isn't and then reduce the overall amount of therians by that amount who doesn't believe they're it anymore. I think the group believing in something else (non-canine or non-feline) will soon become much larger.