(2025-07-28 21:30)DreamyArisazu Wrote:  I can’t find the subforum. Is it only accessible to adults?

It is not. Stand-by, tech are checking it out!
Update: It should be fixed and accessible to all now, thankyou for letting us know!

- Fern

I can’t find the subforum. Is it only accessible to adults?

Hey TG!

We have heard your concerns that the previous Rule 24 was too stifling. While it was never intended to silence the experiences of systems, or to insinuate that it was something only adults could experience, we recognize that the wording of the rule left much to be desired.

As many of you who have been in the community know, the rule was initially passed with the intent of preventing arguments, protecting systems from invalidation, and keeping TG on topic, as well as preventing the spread of misinformation and abuse of accountability. While our hope to protect members remains the same, we've realized that the previous limitations were too harsh and made the forums less accessible to those whose experience of therianthropy directly related to their plurality.

Therefore, after discussion amongst the team and some very helpful feedback from members, we have made significant changes to the rule, alongside the creation of a new sub-forum specifically for the discussion of plural alterhuman experiences.

This sub-forum was made to support discussion around the alterhuman experiences of systems (such as those with DID and OSDD), as well as spiritual or metaphysical plurals (such as tulpas, inner animals, daemons, or similar, who may not have felt their experiences were covered elsewhere), whilst ensuring we can better moderate and promote discussion in a peaceful & thoughtful manner.

Our new Rule 24 is worded as such:
24. Discussions of plurality, DID, and other like conditions are to be kept to the following subforums: the plurality subforum, adult subforums, team spaces where the staff allows, or personal journals. Indicating who is speaking is permitted in all spaces. Our reasons for this rule can be found in Explaining the Community Rules of Conduct.

A new, enhanced explanation can also be found in the aforementioned link, which better explains what is permitted and why these rules came about.

This new sub-forum can be found under the Other Communities board, and is called Plurality & Other Identities.
Some guidelines for the sub-forum can be found in the pinned post here, so please give them a look. It is also now open to all members, so feel free to post there at your leisure!

We hope that these clarifications and additions can help systems to feel more welcome within the community, as they always have been, and encourage healthier discussions surrounding their alterhuman experiences. A special thanks to those who reached out personally with feedback & suggestions, and thankyou to the community for being patient with us while Staff found a way to implement these changes thoughtfully!

- TG Staff Team

(2025-07-25 21:31)tsukinokyuubi Wrote:  

(2025-05-04 3:39)Bagera Wrote:  

(2025-05-04 3:30)starwingedwolf Wrote:  

(2025-05-03 0:28)Bagera Wrote:  After much deliberation, we staff have decided to disallow discussion on plurality and DID among the main parts of the forum.

The rule as written: Plurality, DID, multiple personalities, and other like conditions are not to be discussed outside of adult spaces, with the exception of teams in which the staff member allows, and personal journals, or if the individual is seeking legitimate healthcare resources.


This has always been a loaded topic, much like politics, and almost always degrades into bickering or people invalidating others experiences. We do not wish to exclude or punish people who are legitimately experiencing these conditions, hence why we are not having a blanket ban. For the sake of peace though, we must limit these topics to designated spaces. Since staff members can change over time, if you wish to find a team which allows this as a discussion topic, feel free to post in Write to Staff and ask us.


I realize that there will people who are upset with the new rule, as there are people with every new rule, but this has really been an ongiong issue for many years now, and we would rather people with these issues to be able to talk in designated spaces safely rather then be invalidated by people who are skeptical in the public spaces. Skepticism is allowed on this site, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but when it devolves into bickering, it makes the space uncomfortable for everyone.

Thank you all for the understanding.

I really do not agree with this rule at all. You are banning discussion of a disorder because of bickering and people invalidating eachothers experiences, why do we not ban bickering and fakeclaiming instead? This is kinda like telling an autistic person to shut up because majority of neurotypical people naturally tend to dislike autistic people/favor other neurotypicals over autistic people even without knowing they're autistic.

I don't want to accuse anyone of anything, but this honestly just seems like TG is trying to erase systems and DID and deny their existence, I do not believe you're doing it to avoid systems getting hurt, because if you were I think the more logical solution was to ban fakeclaiming.

The thing about fakeclaiming is that we have no way of proving whether someone is or isn't. The fact of it all is that DID and the like is generally the result of a medical condition, and no one here is qualified to diagnose or dismiss any condition. We know that some of you are hurt by this decision, and believe me, we deliberated on it for some time. Every single active staff member, including ones who are plural themselves, voted yes on this.
We as staff need to maintain peace, and this topic always turns into bickering. That involves hard decisions that some people aren't going to like. As I said though, no one wanted to blanket ban the topic because we didn't want to shut out systems. There are just now designated spaces for it. I really don't understand why people keep glossing over that. There are places where this discussion can take place. Why is it any different than fictionkin discussion only taking place in the fictionkin forum? How is it different than any other topic on this forum being posted in their designated spaces?

Hi there. I bumped into this rule after joining the Discord recently, and I'm wondering if this is all the material on this rule/anything else to do with DID discussion on this forum. As I read the rule as written and the replies here on this thread, this is what stands out to me as a problem: "Why is it any different than fictionkin discussion only taking place in the fictionkin forum? How is it different than any other topic on this forum being posted in their designated spaces?"

Because if you lean towards DID (or Plural identities) as being a real, and therefore alters are real, then you have members who cannot engage with the forum equally as members who are singletons/singlets/those who are not plural. If alters are not allowed to announce themselves as an individual, and must mask as one person under one username to engage on the forums, then that feels unjust. Unless I misunderstood, and alters ARE allowed to announce that they are present/the one typing, but discussing DID as a topic must sit inside a specific topic thread/forum, then that I could agree with that more. I'd love more clarity. Can a profile mention they are a system? And can alters make it known someone else is typing? If not, would alters need separate accounts in order to engage as themself? :/

Alters are allowed to say who is speaking, but we want it to be done in a more natural way than prefixing each post. What this means is that if someone asks who is speaking, uses the wrong name, or if you're just introducing yourself in a post, you would simply do so as if you were speaking to someone in day to day life.
For example:
John: Hey Carol, how are you today?
You: Oh, it's Joanne right now, but I'm doing well.

Or:
Hey guys, it's Tim right now, has anyone seen the new forum post on food?

As for what else you've asked:
You can list on your profile that you are a system
Only one account per body. We don't allow members to have multiple accounts

Please let me know if there's any additional clarification you need.

Also: It's not something you've asked but just a bit of a heads up for everyone reading this in general, but we are still discussing as a community the finer points of this rule, and currently we are planning to set up a plural therians and other identities subforum on the site. So there will soon be a dedicated space for these kinds of discussions.

(2025-05-04 3:39)Bagera Wrote:  

(2025-05-04 3:30)starwingedwolf Wrote:  

(2025-05-03 0:28)Bagera Wrote:  After much deliberation, we staff have decided to disallow discussion on plurality and DID among the main parts of the forum.

The rule as written: Plurality, DID, multiple personalities, and other like conditions are not to be discussed outside of adult spaces, with the exception of teams in which the staff member allows, and personal journals, or if the individual is seeking legitimate healthcare resources.


This has always been a loaded topic, much like politics, and almost always degrades into bickering or people invalidating others experiences. We do not wish to exclude or punish people who are legitimately experiencing these conditions, hence why we are not having a blanket ban. For the sake of peace though, we must limit these topics to designated spaces. Since staff members can change over time, if you wish to find a team which allows this as a discussion topic, feel free to post in Write to Staff and ask us.


I realize that there will people who are upset with the new rule, as there are people with every new rule, but this has really been an ongiong issue for many years now, and we would rather people with these issues to be able to talk in designated spaces safely rather then be invalidated by people who are skeptical in the public spaces. Skepticism is allowed on this site, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but when it devolves into bickering, it makes the space uncomfortable for everyone.

Thank you all for the understanding.

I really do not agree with this rule at all. You are banning discussion of a disorder because of bickering and people invalidating eachothers experiences, why do we not ban bickering and fakeclaiming instead? This is kinda like telling an autistic person to shut up because majority of neurotypical people naturally tend to dislike autistic people/favor other neurotypicals over autistic people even without knowing they're autistic.

I don't want to accuse anyone of anything, but this honestly just seems like TG is trying to erase systems and DID and deny their existence, I do not believe you're doing it to avoid systems getting hurt, because if you were I think the more logical solution was to ban fakeclaiming.

The thing about fakeclaiming is that we have no way of proving whether someone is or isn't. The fact of it all is that DID and the like is generally the result of a medical condition, and no one here is qualified to diagnose or dismiss any condition. We know that some of you are hurt by this decision, and believe me, we deliberated on it for some time. Every single active staff member, including ones who are plural themselves, voted yes on this.
We as staff need to maintain peace, and this topic always turns into bickering. That involves hard decisions that some people aren't going to like. As I said though, no one wanted to blanket ban the topic because we didn't want to shut out systems. There are just now designated spaces for it. I really don't understand why people keep glossing over that. There are places where this discussion can take place. Why is it any different than fictionkin discussion only taking place in the fictionkin forum? How is it different than any other topic on this forum being posted in their designated spaces?

Hi there. I bumped into this rule after joining the Discord recently, and I'm wondering if this is all the material on this rule/anything else to do with DID discussion on this forum. As I read the rule as written and the replies here on this thread, this is what stands out to me as a problem: "Why is it any different than fictionkin discussion only taking place in the fictionkin forum? How is it different than any other topic on this forum being posted in their designated spaces?"

Because if you lean towards DID (or Plural identities) as being a real, and therefore alters are real, then you have members who cannot engage with the forum equally as members who are singletons/singlets/those who are not plural. If alters are not allowed to announce themselves as an individual, and must mask as one person under one username to engage on the forums, then that feels unjust. Unless I misunderstood, and alters ARE allowed to announce that they are present/the one typing, but discussing DID as a topic must sit inside a specific topic thread/forum, then that I could agree with that more. I'd love more clarity. Can a profile mention they are a system? And can alters make it known someone else is typing? If not, would alters need separate accounts in order to engage as themself? :/

How does someone know what is or isn't a shift? I guess where is the line between animalistic desires and a shift? With phantom shifts that's clear, but mental shifts seem a bit confusing.

I suppose I should give an example. It's not much because I am not confident in where the boundaries are, but the only thing I am sure is probably a shift is something that happened years ago, though I couldn't say when. But I remember the feeling of having phantom fur. It didn't last long, but for a while I felt so soft and fluffy. For things I am less sure of... Occasionally I have the desire to lay out in the sun and warm my fur, only to be slightly dissapointed. But I have never experienced any state where I wasn't aware I was human.

Here are some other threads that talk about what shifts are like:

https://forums.therian-guide.com/Thread-Can-you-describe-your-most-memorable-shift-as-an-alter-human
^ I even commented on this one, a while ago

https://forums.therian-guide.com/Thread-What-was-your-first-shift-like--23004

https://forums.therian-guide.com/Thread-Is-this-a-shift-animalistic-urge

https://forums.therian-guide.com/Thread-What-To-Call-This-shifting

There are many, many more but these are the more recent and informative ones. Nothing will help you more on here than learning how to use the search function efficiently


For me, I'm usually in a constant canine mentality. Human behaviours are something I have to actively think about and analyze which is exhausting. It's easier when I'm in dog form but if I'm feeling more wolfish, I prefer not to interact with others. If I'm with someone I trust or am going through strong emotions, I stop being able to keep up the human mask well which is usually what I refer to as a shift. I can act normal with effort but I'd rather not.

Shifts are tricky for me since obviously canines have different body language than humans do. I don't have a solid way to communicate without expressive ears and a tail, because facial expressions and speaking don't come naturally to me. Typing with canine emojis on discord is usually how I get through them.

I'm fairly new here even if my profile is 5 years old. (Things got busy and I forgot about this website.) I have heard a lot about things like shifting, and was curious. As I have no basis for what a shift means without examples I must ask; For people who do experience them, regardless of degree, what are they like for you?

I figured it might help not only me, but others who are unsure or knew if we could get some stories about shifting. For the most information if possible I'd like to find stories of shifts people have had from small ones to large ones, and in a variety of situations.

I looked to see if another such topic exists. I am sure one probably does, but could not find it.

(2025-07-24 5:15)WerewolfPack Wrote:  So, for complete clarity, where exactly are these discussions allowed? Like, I know it can be talked about in journals, but where exactly is the space set aside for system discussion? I've been searching the forums to try to find where it would be but can't see anything anywhere I've looked.

I'm not sure if I just don't understand where or what "adult spaces" are, but I can't find anything that would even indicate or point to where it's located.

The adult board is accessible to active adult members. Your account is set as inactive (meaning you haven't posted in 6+ months), so you won't be able to see them. To become an active member, you need to post twice. As for team forums, they belong to each individual staff member and you can join them by asking the staff member who owns a given team. You can learn more about teams here. You'll need to ask a given staff member if they allow that kind of discussion in their team, but many do. Especially Senna, as she is plural herself.

So, for complete clarity, where exactly are these discussions allowed? Like, I know it can be talked about in journals, but where exactly is the space set aside for system discussion? I've been searching the forums to try to find where it would be but can't see anything anywhere I've looked.

I'm not sure if I just don't understand where or what "adult spaces" are, but I can't find anything that would even indicate or point to where it's located.