(2026-01-29 23:04)TJWolf Wrote:  In my last reply to this thread, I detailed how the shift from online forums to social media is what enticed females into these communities but there's another side of the coin.

Aesthetic based social media such as Facebook and Instagram also gives young females bodily dysphoria because they are constantly comparing themselves to whatever image and behavior the internet deems to be the "ideal" woman.

It's no stretch to consider that there's only two main avenues a young female can travel down when she searches "I don't fit the ideal, I feel like I'm in the wrong body".

Aye, I think that's a possible factor too.

this is amazing. lol but really unessary word are funny but should not be used unironically.

In my last reply to this thread, I detailed how the shift from online forums to social media is what enticed females into these communities but there's another side of the coin.

Aesthetic based social media such as Facebook and Instagram also gives young females bodily dysphoria because they are constantly comparing themselves to whatever image and behavior the internet deems to be the "ideal" woman.

It's no stretch to consider that there's only two main avenues a young female can travel down when she searches "I don't fit the ideal, I feel like I'm in the wrong body".

(2026-01-28 0:33)Zero Wrote:  I'm pretty much of the opinion that social roles are reinforcements for what nature already built. Codifies it in a sense. But there's still no hard and fast rules about how everyone should act or needs to act. Nature creates the general trends and socialisation adds a bunch of extra detail and filler. Well meaning campaigns push for men to subvert expdctations and let themselves cry or talk about their feelings more, to push against the narrative that they should be stoic all the time. And such subversions can be acheived but only to an extent, enough to not he ashamed when crying. But testosterone directly affects how emotions are expressed and if you're T dominant then crying is quite sporadic.
And doing things to distract generally works better than delving into feelings talk.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was going for in my long-winded speech hehe
You worded it in a much more concise manner than I did

(2026-01-28 0:33)Zero Wrote:  It certainly is something that can make male friendship difficult, as when, for some reason or another, you can't do the formerly shared activity or do ti as often as you could in the past, don't be surprised if your male friends drop you like a sack of hot coal. I've had that happen many times. There's nothing malicious or personal about it. It's more that the reality is as you say, male socializing tends to revolve around shared activities so when that shared activity dwindles or stops, so does the friendship.

Yeah I can absolutely see that being the case. I think I have a somewhat masculine social approach? I meet most people through hobbies and most of my friends are men, and I do have a tendency to forget to keep in touch when out of context. I use regular, prescheduled furmeets near me as a friend-keeping guarantee. And I am generally more talkative in a setting involving my own or a shared hobby.

(2026-01-28 0:33)Zero Wrote:  My approach is kind of hybrid since I think shared activities are a good way to meet knew people and start to get to know them and create the foundation for a deeper friendship, and then after that point constantly Doing Things together doesn't have to be an emphasis, but as I've said, in practice it tends to not go well with men.

I think I'm similar, activities are a way to arrange stuff, but I still like to just spend time connecting for the sake of it. And this is usually achieved with very close friends of any gender.

(2026-01-28 0:33)Zero Wrote:  It's interesting how things changed. Back in the. day, it was generally reckoned that female autism didn't really exist. With the rise of the warrior cats fandom online in the mid teens, that seemed to be a solid counter-example that can't be denied, generally seeming to be the female autistic equivalent of what the Sonic fandom was to male autistic people in earlier eras. Those are stereotypes, of course, but they do have at least a kernel of truth to them. That's a tangent.

A tangent but a relevant one I think. The pieces of media that end up popular among autists (eg Sonic) are 1. a bit formulaic. 2. Have a roster of characters that are colour coded and come with listable stats/categories. There's something very pleasing about that. When I was a kid the tv programmes I obsessed over had colour coded characters and extremely formulaic episode formats.
Warrior cats has those elements plus is a bit girly because of talking fluffy animals. And I think "nerdy" girls are quite unlike their non-nerdy peers in that they also socialise through shared hobbies more often.

(2026-01-28 0:33)Zero Wrote:  One big counter-example that occurs to me is that historically the therian community was largely male dominated. From its inception all the way up to maybe 2010-2015 it was overwhelmingly male dominated. The influx of new people during the Tumblr era decisively shifted the demographics to the reverse. It is interesting to think about why. Why does it appeal so much to preteen and teen girls? Cultural factors I don't quite understand. I haven't bene a teenager in over ten years so I'm old and out of touch with these things.

The internet was male dominated until around 2010 because computers in general were still the realm of techy nerds. The more mainstream the internet is, more diverse interests get hosted including interests that attract women, I think.

(2026-01-28 22:39)Snapdragon_ Wrote:  

(2025-02-23 11:19)DustWolf Wrote:  But I would like the reader to consider why the above is what we see? If online gender identification is genuine in the sense of someone claiming to be trans male being male, why does the majority of them seem to adhere to female behavioural stereotypes? If they didn't, the correlation mentioned above should be tied to gender and not sex, no?

Other queer folks have already commented on this, but as an AFAB trans guy I wanted to pitch in too.

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Sorry if this is rambly, missing some points, or poorly structured. Im being very general with what I'm saying and am aware of that; no two people are gonna have the same experiences in life but there can be some trends because of the strict society we find ourselves in.
Also it's late, I'm sick for the umpteenth time this month, and I'm writing on my phone which is less than convenient. Please do question/debate anything I've said that sounds off

I'm pretty much of the opinion that social roles are reinforcements for what nature already built. Codifies it in a sense. But there's still no hard and fast rules about how everyone should act or needs to act. Nature creates the general trends and socialisation adds a bunch of extra detail and filler. Well meaning campaigns push for men to subvert expdctations and let themselves cry or talk about their feelings more, to push against the narrative that they should be stoic all the time. And such subversions can be acheived but only to an extent, enough to not he ashamed when crying. But testosterone directly affects how emotions are expressed and if you're T dominant then crying is quite sporadic.
And doing things to distract generally works better than delving into feelings talk.

I'm losing my mind on that generator. But I'm kinda worried about the fact that I'm 90% sure I saw most of these words being used for real and unironically... the "marrow" thing is especially familiar for some reason. And "omni" is just making me shiver at this point.

Hello everyone,

I'd like to introduce you to this new word:

To Faunalune: To make up words nobody wanted, for uses nobody needs

• who even made that word
• some faunalune idk
  

• I've come across a few new words in the past, where a search has returned entries on several therian/otherkin wikis.
  Those entries detail what it means, and then say who created the term, on what platform, and when.
  In one case, the multiple entried mentioned the term was created three days previously, and all the pages had been created by the terms originator; clearly an attempt to shoehorn themselves into the therian history books.
• Wow. Real faunalune move
  

• most useless microlabel of all time
• yep, absolutely faunalune
  

(2026-01-29 3:22)Kaiyus Casster Wrote:  I definitely noticed when I openly told ppl I was a furry I didn't get nearly as much hate as when I told my friends I was a therian so maybe its a similar fear, I do think furry being more widely known and more recently more accepted its a label more people latch too

That makes a lot of sense. Plus I’m sure some the TikTok crowd probably gives some people a more negative impression of therians.

(2026-01-28 15:45)Parthias Wrote:  @Kaiyus Casster
That’s kind of interesting. I’m kind of the reverse. I have an interest in anthropomorphic animals, but I don’t consider myself a furry because I don’t participate in those spaces or any of the typical activities. I wonder if they would perceive the furry label as safer simply because it’s more widely known? I mean a label is a label and individuals are free to use one and not the other, it just seems kind of odd to me

I definitely noticed when I openly told ppl I was a furry I didn't get nearly as much hate as when I told my friends I was a therian so maybe its a similar fear, I do think furry being more widely known and more recently more accepted its a label more people latch too

(2025-02-23 11:19)DustWolf Wrote:  But I would like the reader to consider why the above is what we see? If online gender identification is genuine in the sense of someone claiming to be trans male being male, why does the majority of them seem to adhere to female behavioural stereotypes? If they didn't, the correlation mentioned above should be tied to gender and not sex, no?

I want to touch on what you've said here about "online gender identification" (don't like that phrasing because I assure you I am still trans off of the internet) being genuine. Am I genuine in believing that I'm trans? Of course, but I do not truly claim that I am actually male. It is not about actually being male in any way, I simply feel better about myself when I'm seen as male. It causes me dysphoria to be seen as female. I understand that this could be compared to any number of things. Someone will probably feel better if you call them "strong" and "smart," but you won't just because they want you to. This is, however, not a goal that I will stop striving for if someone calls me a boy. It isn't preventing me from improving myself and isn't harming anyone, it is only helping me.

It's not dissimilar to how I view my therianthropy. I've had this discussion before. I do not think I'm truly a fox, I just desperately wish I was and I feel as if I should be. I am not truly male, you can't expect that I will be exactly like someone who is cis. My gender describes the set of sex characteristics that won't make me miserable, not an observation of which expectations I fit best. I understand why people feel that trans people are not truly their genders when they act more like the one corresponding to their sex, but ultimately our biology and how we are raised does affect us and that doesn't mean it isn't the most beneficial thing for our perceived genders to be treated as reality.