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  RE: Shifters disease; What is it, and How do we get it?
Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: LiminalLegion - 2023-12-30 3:05

(2023-12-30 2:46)B3W1tch3dSparr0w Wrote:  I never thought about this, simply due to feeling like it's a little obvious admittedly... But it's okay.

Due to my own experiences being exactly that... Feeling like another animal at different times, it will be difficult for me. But I'll add a bit about it in a second!


Not a problem! Take your time. It just seemed like something that could be helpful since it seems to be a common thing. Like, the things I shared in the Discord had always felt like something not tied to a human-nature thing even as a kid. It always felt more tied to a dog or dog-like creature instead. It may be that most people I end up being around just don't share that with me and that's why I feel it's not a human thing but I'm unsure. That's why I think it would be helpful to know of ways to confirm it


  RE: Shifters disease; What is it, and How do we get it?
Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: Abysmal. - 2023-12-30 2:46

(2023-12-30 1:36)Tdae Wrote:  Rage typing? I didn't mean to come across that way, I apologize @B3W1tch3dSparr0w. @DustWolf I don't know why you think I want a spotlight, but you have a fair point that I need to think more before typing.

I understand what you mean by "false experiences," and people's longing to fit in somewhere. But I have trouble relating to it at the same time. I'm detached from it I guess. I'm a machine. The machine has rendered experiences for reasons. This feeling has led me to a spiritual belief that everything is illusions, but that's over my head really.

I see two different ideas being combined in the original post. One is "shifter's disease," which means people having therian-like experiences due to exposure/suggestion. The other idea is about people asking about how to induce shifts. These two look alike, but they're not quite the same thing. There is a concern that you're fooling yourself either way. I think this is debatable, or, it depends.


Thank you for your input! I also agree that exposure may lead to this phenomenon happening too... I've been looking into it due to someone I know on the forums (I won't be naming who) has expressed picking up behaviours from people that have certain things such to say disorders unintentionally, and I've felt this has made them a empath... Being able to reflect on the experiences and act accordingly. I feel this may have something to do with it. Because us as born human beings feel the way we do, and being able to understand each other well. Maybe this can happen to Therians too?


(2023-12-30 2:36)LiminalLegion Wrote:  
Thank you for recommending that I read this post! It is really good to know. Though, I was wondering if you have any advice on how to avoid it and/or how to confirm if something could be to someone's therianthropy or not? I feel adding something to this on how to best avoid it would be great!


I never thought about this, simply due to feeling like it's a little obvious admittedly... But it's okay.

Due to my own experiences being exactly that... Feeling like another animal at different times, it will be difficult for me. But I'll add a bit about it in a second!


  RE: Shifters disease; What is it, and How do we get it?
Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: LiminalLegion - 2023-12-30 2:36

Thank you for recommending that I read this post! It is really good to know. Though, I was wondering if you have any advice on how to avoid it and/or how to confirm if something could be to someone's therianthropy or not? I feel adding something to this on how to best avoid it would be great!


  RE: Shifters disease; What is it, and How do we get it?
Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: Tdae - 2023-12-30 1:36

Rage typing? I didn't mean to come across that way, I apologize @B3W1tch3dSparr0w. @DustWolf I don't know why you think I want a spotlight, but you have a fair point that I need to think more before typing.

I understand what you mean by "false experiences," and people's longing to fit in somewhere. But I have trouble relating to it at the same time. I'm detached from it I guess. I'm a machine. The machine has rendered experiences for reasons. This feeling has led me to a spiritual belief that everything is illusions, but that's over my head really.

I see two different ideas being combined in the original post. One is "shifter's disease," which means people having therian-like experiences due to exposure/suggestion. The other idea is about people asking about how to induce shifts. These two look alike, but they're not quite the same thing. There is a concern that you're fooling yourself either way. I think this is debatable, or, it depends.


  RE: Shifters disease; What is it, and How do we get it?
Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: Abysmal. - 2023-12-30 1:14

(2023-12-30 1:04)WanderingForests Wrote:  

(2023-12-30 0:38)B3W1tch3dSparr0w Wrote:  

(2023-12-29 22:43)WanderingForests Wrote:  @B3W1tch3dSparr0w
Oooh, I see what you're saying. I did see a kid on TikTok who looked about 11 saying stuff like that. She said that she was a wolf therian because she was a leader and wolves had alphas in their packs. Which, first off, that doesn't make you a wolf therian, and second off, the whole alpha system is very inaccurate for wild wolves.


Still not exactly it; that's simply the believe of a past life... It's just inaccurate is all. But you are right about the one thing. That isn't what makes you therian.


She didn't mention past lives in her post at all, just why she thought she was a wolf therian and that was why


Huh.. that's interesting


  RE: Shifters disease; What is it, and How do we get it?
Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: WanderingForests - 2023-12-30 1:04

(2023-12-30 0:38)B3W1tch3dSparr0w Wrote:  

(2023-12-29 22:43)WanderingForests Wrote:  @B3W1tch3dSparr0w
Oooh, I see what you're saying. I did see a kid on TikTok who looked about 11 saying stuff like that. She said that she was a wolf therian because she was a leader and wolves had alphas in their packs. Which, first off, that doesn't make you a wolf therian, and second off, the whole alpha system is very inaccurate for wild wolves.


Still not exactly it; that's simply the believe of a past life... It's just inaccurate is all. But you are right about the one thing. That isn't what makes you therian.


She didn't mention past lives in her post at all, just why she thought she was a wolf therian and that was why


  RE: Shifters disease; What is it, and How do we get it?
Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: Abysmal. - 2023-12-30 0:38

(2023-12-29 22:43)WanderingForests Wrote:  @B3W1tch3dSparr0w
Oooh, I see what you're saying. I did see a kid on TikTok who looked about 11 saying stuff like that. She said that she was a wolf therian because she was a leader and wolves had alphas in their packs. Which, first off, that doesn't make you a wolf therian, and second off, the whole alpha system is very inaccurate for wild wolves.


Still not exactly it; that's simply the believe of a past life... It's just inaccurate is all. But you are right about the one thing. That isn't what makes you therian.


  RE: Shifters disease; What is it, and How do we get it?
Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: WanderingForests - 2023-12-29 22:43

@B3W1tch3dSparr0w
Oooh, I see what you're saying. I did see a kid on TikTok who looked about 11 saying stuff like that. She said that she was a wolf therian because she was a leader and wolves had alphas in their packs. Which, first off, that doesn't make you a wolf therian, and second off, the whole alpha system is very inaccurate for wild wolves.


  RE: Shifters disease; What is it, and How do we get it?
Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: Abysmal. - 2023-12-29 22:28

(2023-12-29 19:06)WanderingForests Wrote:  I have seen people with this "disease" but I'm curious if anyone has any examples of experiences that people say are therian experiences but really are not.
I have one that I think a lot of people say is something that should be a therian experience but really isn't: going through an 'animal phase' as a kid. I know some therians trace their experiences back into early childhood but I have seen people who claim to be therians based upon a phase from being a little kid that they grew out of.

That in itself isn't exactly shifters disease, but takes on a similar approach I guess? I've seen people claim things like their personality being directly related to their theriotypes (which to a extent CAN be true, but isn't entirely true).


(2023-12-29 18:42)Tdae Wrote:  I disagree with the extremity of the attitude of calling it a "disease" when people are merely fooling themselves. I realize you didn't coin the term, but I suggest maybe you're taking it too seriously. It suggests there is real harm, but what evidence is there that inducing shifts is actually harmful? Let's talk about the pros and cons of inducing shifts, sure, but without the judginess.


As Dusty had said, I did not mean any harm in what I said. It is simply the term used for such instance. If I were to coin the term, I personally would definitely not use the term disease, but it is what it is. Otherwise, I am by no means judging, just explaining such phenomenon because it's often overlooked. Is that a problem to you? Addressing something? Because I don't think it is.

Otherwise, there is no actual harm happening, but due to it creating false experiences, that is it's only harm. That is what can make people falsely believe they are therian... Because from what I noticed, when people first discover Therianthropy and are okay with it, it's almost as if we yearn to be one... Because more then anything, we want a group that understands our experiences. I personally believe most of those types of people may just be otherhearted.


  RE: Shifters disease; What is it, and How do we get it?
Posted in: Introduction to Therianthropy Posted by: WanderingForests - 2023-12-29 19:06

I have seen people with this "disease" but I'm curious if anyone has any examples of experiences that people say are therian experiences but really are not.
I have one that I think a lot of people say is something that should be a therian experience but really isn't: going through an 'animal phase' as a kid. I know some therians trace their experiences back into early childhood but I have seen people who claim to be therians based upon a phase from being a little kid that they grew out of.



 
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