I assumed that the Hidden was something that you had been thinking about for quite some time and tied into your personal belief system, not that you came up with it on the spot.

I'm noticing that a lot of your replies are pretty defensive. You posted a theory with quite a bit of holes on a public forum, so people are going to reply with questions. I understand as a pup that's new to the forum, everything is very exciting and you might be tempted to post whatever comes to mind. Maybe in the future, if you have an idea, you could run it by shoutbox and get others' opinions. It comes off as bad taste to post such a broad theory and assert it as truth without deep thought.

Hi @FlamingPhoenix!

The Hidden isn’t an entity - the Hidden is the Hidden.

A description is isn’t necessarily the same as the real thing is it though?
It describes something - it doesn’t say it is something.
I don’t call the Hidden a god, I call it the Hidden.
If you want to call the Hidden a god, feel free, bc that’s ur observation/opinion.

The terms thing was a general thing to anyone who had replied was reading/had read the thread - it wasn’t necessarily directed at you, it was a general thing.

(2026-06-20 20:21)aspen-woof Wrote:  Sorry that you don’t agree @FlamingPhoenix, this is just my theory, my opinion - feel free to give me your theory to show me how it’s better.

Ok then - I never said you had to believe anything or that the only alterhumans are the ones that say they are something.
I’m newish to alterhuman labels and terms so I may miss a few which I’m very sorry about if I do, I just haven’t heard the term before, sorry!

1. I don't have any theory, I just take my observations and share them.
2. Nothing I said had to do with labels or terms.
3:
It doesn't matter if you say that "the Hidden" isn't a god. It doesn't matter if anybody worships the Hidden. You are describing an entity that would hold a major amount of power, and you said that they would know everything in advance. Whether you like it or not, you described a god and contradicted yourself.

Hi there @Haskull!

God is a god - He is an all-powerful, all-knowing being.
The Hidden isn’t a god: they aren’t worshipped and believed in around the world.
The Hidden is the Hidden - I don’t really know how else to put it tbh.

I’m sorry if u disagree with my thoughts - I’ve already said this may not be the most accurate theory in the world as I just typed it out as the idea came to me, so I’m sorry if this doesn’t make sense to you, you can choose to ignore it and go about your day and if you think it’s a “God did it” theory.
It isn’t a “God did it” theory to me as the Hidden isn’t a god and isn’t from a religion - they are just a theory atm!

Also what do you mean by my “religious system”?

Bc they are the Hidden and they do whatever the hell they want whenever and whatever.

Edit: they are all-knowing in a way as they know what will happen (I see I probably should’ve used all-seeing instead of all-knowing, sorry for the confusion) and it can make mistakes bc we have in theory this community. Sorry for the mixup there!

(2026-06-20 22:24)aspen-woof Wrote:  *also the Hidden isn’t a being - the Hidden is the Hidden.
You don’t call the Hidden an entity or a being - you call it the Hidden

The Hidden isn’t a being it is the Hidden

I have to agree with @Hemlock that this feels like a rebranded version of "God did it". To support your theory, you could explain how the Hidden differs from other deities like the Christian god and explain more nuance. Is the Hidden equivalent to an omnipotent god, or is it in charge of a more specific area? This basically requires a long in-depth explanation of your religious system or else we lack context for what you're saying. Also, how does this theory accommodate people who claim to have BOTH an animal and human soul, come from other universes, or have unique/fictional kintypes? Why would a higher being make those things up for people to experience?

EDIT: I see now you addressed fictionkin. Still though, is the Hidden all-knowing or did it mistakenly place us into the wrong body? How is it possible for it to get confused?

*also the Hidden isn’t a being - the Hidden is the Hidden.
You don’t call the Hidden an entity or a being - you call it the Hidden

(2026-06-20 19:41)FlamingPhoenix Wrote:  @aspen-woof What I'm saying is that your theory doesn't really cover a lot of aspects of being nonhuman, there's more to all of us than just saying we are something, and some of those aspects seem a little more intentional or in-depth than simply "higher being messed up with sorting."

Sorry that you don’t agree @FlamingPhoenix, this is just my theory, my opinion - feel free to give me your theory to show me how it’s better.

Ok then - I never said you had to believe anything or that the only alterhumans are the ones that say they are something.
I’m newish to alterhuman labels and terms so I may miss a few which I’m very sorry about if I do, I just haven’t heard the term before, sorry!

@aspen-woof What I'm saying is that your theory doesn't really cover a lot of aspects of being nonhuman, there's more to all of us than just saying we are something, and some of those aspects seem a little more intentional or in-depth than simply "higher being messed up with sorting."

I see! @Hemlock @LemLem @FlamingPhoenix

Well it’s up to you in what you believe, and I’m not saying it’s 100% accurate or that you have to believe it or anything!

Just opinions, and I have no clue @FlamingPhoenix what Solver of the Absolute Fabric or Exponential End or Absolute Solver is sorry, and I don’t know what you’re really saying except that a part of you is a drone, so I can’t really answer your question sorry.

“This feels like “god did it” with shiny new paints”? @Hemlock these are just my opinions and we’re all entitled to our own, so I’m sorry but I don’t necessarily agree with that point of view.

Excellent questions @LemLem I think if the Hidden were to give them more, it was because they felt like they needed more and they don’t give them to poachers or abusers because their heart clearly isn’t in the right place and cld potentially harm other alterhumans/animals/people.
And the Hidden is not an entity - the Hidden is the Hidden. It could be anything and nothing all at the same time. It is the Hidden and I don’t class it as an entity as it cld be an alterhuman or a devil or anything!

I would like to ask some questions regarding your theory:

Would the Solver of the Absolute Fabric, the Void, and the Exponential End be a result of the Hidden, also? Would they have created a superintelligent AI and a solver for the 4D fabric of reality to fully commit to making somebody be a disassembly drone?

You say that the Hidden would have gotten confused and accidentally made me a drone, but creating the Absolute Solver seems like quite the feat just to patch a little mix-up.