(2018-11-26 15:11)elinox Wrote: sun/syntherianthropy - a subtype of therianthropy often categorized as an individual being integrated with their theriotype, so much so, that they only experience minor shifts that are not as intense as a therian. Suntherians do not shift, but their therioside/human ratio varies (which I think is where the sliding scale concept comes in).
Aye this is an example of the new appropriated definitions of suntherianthropy that have been floating around, which are wrong.
(2018-11-26 15:11)elinox Wrote: But contherian and suntherian are THE SAME THING? In my years in the community, this is the first time I've ever heard someone say they were supposed to be the same thing? In my notes of this stuff, I don't have anything backing that up, hence why I'm confused.
Yes the reason anything to justify this is missing is because the original thread on the Werelist from 2005 has been lost with that iteration of the forums. All whoever wrote the definitions had to go off, was the two reactions by WordWolf
, which read out of context, I suppose would be reasonably interpreted as suntherianthropy being something more flexible than contherianthropy.
But if you read into the humorous tone of WordWolf:
Quote:In fact, it is what is USUALLY meant by contherianthropy.
since there's a diehard core of people who insist
that the guy who coined the term
gets to define it,
and his outdated definition does not fit most
I've circumvented that problem by inventing a new term.
...you will probably be able to surmise that the only reason the word "Suntherian" exists is in order to circumvent Jakkal, otherwise it's the same thing as what Contherianthropy actually is in real therians.
Otherwise as for practical use it's basically what Lycan said, that a lot of people who experience m-shifts also experience suntherianthropy to a degree. So these terms are not really the best thing to use to explain these experiences, as there are separate dimensions of integration with the animal and separate ones that dictate how the person thinks and whether or not they've ever experienced being human.
We need to basically go back to the drawing board, talk about experiences and then come up with new labels for that.
(2018-11-26 15:18)LycanTheory Wrote:
(2018-11-26 9:25)CrocutaAbIntra Wrote: Thank you for the explanation DustWolf; it finally makes sense to me.
I also never feel 100 percent human but I am not a suntherian because I do experience an ebb and flow.
I suppose the proper term to describe experiences like ours would be "Vacillant", then and I'm guessing most who identify as suntherian probably are Vacillant instead.
The term "vacillant" is no better than "suntherian" or "contherian" except it was used more in the otherkin community. The only reason we've had this debate about using term vacillant instead of suntherian is because the proponents of it happened to be Otherkin.
The word itself still fails to note for instance the distinction for instance between mine and CrocutaAbIntra's experience, where he experiences a sliding scale from more to less likely to experience a human mindset, which I do not experience.
I think all of these words belong in the bin.