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Staff dispute
DustWolf
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Staff dispute
Hello,

As you may have noticed, something has been going down in the past few days.

What began as a dispute in principles over the moderation of a controversial debate thread on our forums, three of our staff (Neon, Calico and Renata) have opted to leave Therian Guide. Because we do not wish to burden our community with the ensuing drama, these staff are currently banned.

Because the three of them caused some havoc before leaving the site, we rolled back the time to restore everything that has been deleted, for about 3 hours. I apologize if you lost any posts you made during this time, considering the scale of regrettable damage, this was the better option.

While I may not have been a neutral party in the argument that started all of this, I do hope that eventually, the passions will cool and we will all be together again.

Take care everybody...

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2017-04-08 2:41
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RE: Staff dispute
Wait what?! Where they banned or did they leave? Im so confused right now and very worried!


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2017-04-08 5:52
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RE: Staff dispute
I hope the ban is not permanent as it would be a shame to ban three incredibly respected and important members of the community over a dispute.
2017-04-08 5:53
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RE: Staff dispute
@Shmi
@minor.hound

One of them asked to be banned and deleted all of their posts. They're still being decided upon.

Another banned themselves, removing their posts as well.

These two deleting their posts en masse is what caused the need for a backup restore.

Everything is still being discussed. There will be more details soon, I promise. Aside from this, there isn't much to worry about. Smile

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2017-04-08 6:16
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RE: Staff dispute
Ahh okay I see, why was the final one banned?
2017-04-08 6:32
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RE: Staff dispute
(2017-04-08 6:32)Shmi Wrote:  Ahh okay I see, why was the final one banned?

The final one was proven to be a co-conspirator and banned to avoid further drama.

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2017-04-08 9:48
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RE: Staff dispute
The ancient art of forum drama.. I admit I am surprised. If it was caused by what I'm thinking, then I shouldn't be. It seemed to be going fine, but I have never seen that subject end well in the years I've been around therian spaces.

Sorry to see it's come to this. It's a difficult position you are put in.


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2017-04-08 10:35
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(2017-04-08 9:48)LycanTheory Wrote:  
(2017-04-08 6:32)Shmi Wrote:  Ahh okay I see, why was the final one banned?

The final one was proven to be a co-conspirator and banned to avoid further drama.

I would like to point out that these are much shorter bans than we've ever given anyone, and their sole purpose is to let people calm down before they do more damage.

Considering heated passions at the moment, we also haven't yet decided what exactly we are going to do.

TBH we just didn't see this one coming, TG is a family to us like we've always said and the staff were cooperating closely on multiple issues at all times. We did not expect them to turn on us and start destroying everything. We are in shock and this are the measures taken to ensure none of us regret anything in the long run.


If anyone is concerned about saying the wrong thing to offend us and ending up banned... We've never done that and we're not going to start now.

What they did was they broke several rules they themselves helped set up. They turned their backs on us, conspired against us and did things to directly hurt the community. Furthermore they attacked Lycan and dredged up his past to try and manipulate him. They've used the trust he's placed on them, against him.

I cannot believe that the people we've worked with for all these years would do this! This simply isn't something family members do to eachother, I don't care what reasons they think they have!

All because they didn't get what they wanted. So they just decided to take it by force, by whatever means possible. Manipulating and hurting people along the way.

To anyone who may be caught in the crossfire, please take a deep breath and a step back. Consider how you remember us and what kind of people we are. I've always played it honest with you guys, and if I say I love you it means I love you. Doesn't mean you can go rip my heart out because you think I'm wrong about something. Please think before you act.

I will do whatever I can to preserve everything that we have worked for. Because I know that eventually passions will stop running hot and we will all regret all of this ever happened. And TG will still be here for everybody at that time.

P.S.: There is enough BS in all our lives. Please don't make more.

LP,
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(This post was last modified: 2017-04-08 11:47 by DustWolf.)
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RE: Staff dispute
I honestly dont know the dull problem but from my pov it looked like there was diffrent views that others then like and then someone used any little thing as an excuse to ban them without getting full info from all parties. But yeah. Just how im seeing it. Im not going to take everything you say for word when we dont have the side of the three who where banned/ "left". This situation kinda seems a little petty to me but hey what do i know.
Edit: Honestly it kinda breaks my trust in tg staff Sad sorry.


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2017-04-08 13:56
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RE: Staff dispute
(2017-04-08 13:56)minor.hound Wrote:  I honestly dont know the dull problem but from my pov it looked like there was diffrent views that others then like and then someone used any little thing as an excuse to ban them without getting full info from all parties. But yeah. Just how im seeing it. Im not going to take everything you say for word when we dont have the side of the three who where banned/ "left". This situation kinda seems a little petty to me but hey what do i know.
Edit: Honestly it kinda breaks my trust in tg staff Sad sorry.

Actually, two of them banned themselves when we tried to get their sides.

They were caught basically conspiring against Lycan, which we have screenshots for, and refused to say what they were concerned about or doing. We normally worked as a team but found that they were actively working against the rest of the staff.

The reason they are banned is because they did it themselves because they refused to say what they were doing and work as a team. They went behind our backs and betrayed the site owner. They were the ones who used any little thing to turn on Lycan.

I cannot stress this enough: They banned themselves because refused to say what they were doing. We as staff typically talk everything out and are VERY hesitant to ban anyone without utmost consideration. The only person we actually banned was the third, after the other two cleared all of their posts and banned themselves, causing Dust to have to load a backup of TG due to the damage they caused.

As Dust said- we're like a family and didn't at all expect this sort of betrayal. Honestly, Dust's very eloquent post above said everything I could have and much more. We did not want this.

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(This post was last modified: 2017-04-08 14:15 by Sonja.)
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