(2020-11-24 1:26)searchingforvanora Wrote: I would like to bring up that tulpamancy is not DID and has hurt the community quite a lot. an issue with saying that impressionable minors will see DID and try to emulate it is that DID is rarely ever represented, unless it is being portrayed as horrible and part of a villian (two face, dr jekyll and mr hyde, split). again, i am not saying it doesn't happen, but it's incredibly unlikely to happen.
Of course tulpamancy and DID are not the same thing. A tulpa by definition is created through concentrated effort. Take a second to open your mind to the possibility that even though tulpamancers have been a nuisance for you, some of their experiences may also be valid. The human mind is quite complex and adaptable to many tasks, if one spends enough time trying to make their brain function as if they are plural, they might eventually succeed, or trick themselves into thinking they have succeeded. And if such a thing is possible, then their perceived reality might have things in common with a DID system.
Have you seen any depictions of DID or plurality in media that you are a fan of? I feel like they way Jane in the show Doom Patrol is portrayed is relatively accurate based on our experience, other than the super powers of course.
(2020-11-24 2:38)searchingforvanora Wrote: The issue is people conflating tulpas and DID, and tulpas using things meant for DID (I've known many a discord bot that were abandoned because tulpas and roleplayers used it to the point of pushing out actual systems) and generally taking over spaces not meant for them.
That is quite unfortunate, it sucks that they couldn't respect the need for a space for those dealing with trauma.
I too have found parts of the tulpamancy community off-putting, some seemed to be interested in creating a tulpa as a way to cope with something, make themselves seem interesting, or to have a sex slave, rather than a genuine interest in sharing their head with someone for the rest of their life. If people who are doing it for those reasons succeed in creating a tulpa, there is a decent chance those tulpas will live in a rather tortured existence, poor darlings. It seems like for any interest that is capable of attracting people, not all of them are going to be the best. But you don't need to paint the entire community with the same brush.
Quote:yes being grounded can suck, but it is not trauma. rape, abuse, starvation, bones broken by your parents are all traumatic things (all of which happened to me) that can cause DID. of course, i should have mentioned this earlier, bu the trauma (98% of the time) must happen before the age of 5, way before a child would be on any social media, or else a system is incredibly unlikely to form. trust me on this, i literally spent all day yesterday reading the dsm-v. basically a system is usually formed before a child would be exposed to anything even depicting it.
again, i do reiterate that trauma is required to be a system, and as such endogenics cannot be a system because they do not have trauma. thank you.
In our case, if trauma is the reason why Yena is here, I suspect that a particular psychedelic trip in my 20's may either be the source of the trauma, or revealed that there was underlying trauma caused by an event that is unknown to me so far.
(2020-11-24 6:28)Tdae Wrote: I don't remember anyone in the DID support community ever using the term "head mates" and I don't like it. It is a SYSTEM, not a group of mates sharing a brain. You are responsible for your system even if you are not in control of your actions, even if you don't remember what happened. It might seem unfair in some cases but it is your responsibility to work on your issues to your ability.
We've only encountered the term headmate recently, and those who used it appeared to view it as an umbrella term that included alters, tulpas, soulbonds, thoughtforms, and any other term for someone who is with you in your noggin, regardless of the reason they are there. Because alter and tulpa are both potentially valid explanations for why Yena is here from our point of view, they picked headmate as a placeholder until we figure it out.
We know that we are each responsible for the system. We know that we still have a lot of work to do on our issues, and will be getting help soon. We're trying to do what work we can in the mean time.
(2020-11-24 7:27)DustWolf Wrote: Sure would be appreciated if you don't do that on my forum.
Noted, we'll refrain from that in the future. With how slow we are at getting thoughts to the page, spending effort worrying about extra formatting seems like a bad idea anyways.